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Conan
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« on: November 08, 2006, 04:17:18 PM »
« edited: November 10, 2006, 06:49:51 PM by conan »

As I hear pundits on TV or in the news, they are saying that dems only won because we ran conservative candidates. Not true,

Senate:

Webb - Liberal/Moderate
McCaskill - Liberal
Tester - Liberal (Possibly the most liberal pickup)
Brown - Liberal
Whitehouse - Liberal
Casey - Moderate

House:

Donnelly -Social Conservative *
Ellsworth - Social Conservative *
Hill - Socially Moderate

Yarmuth - Liberal

Braley - Liberal
Loebsack - Liberal

Boyda - Liberal

Walz - Liberal

Mitchell - Liberal
Giffords - Liberal

McNerney - Liberal

Perlmutter - Liberal

Kagen - Liberal

Mahoney - *
Klein - Liberal

Shuler - Social Conservative *

Space - Liberal *

Altmire - Moderate *
Sestak - Liberal
Murphy - Liberal
Carney - Liberal/Moderate

Hall - Liberal
Gillibrand - Liberal*
Arcuri - Liberal

Courtney - Liberal
Murphy - Liberal

Shea-Porter - Liberal
Hodes - Liberal

Lampson - Moderate/Conservative

24 out of 28 are liberals or moderates
4/28 are social conservatives
*need more research

More elections are yet to be decided

Senate:
All are liberal/mod mostly liberal
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2006, 06:20:13 PM »

They're only saying that on Fox News. Most of the candidates in both parties were more moderate this year.
They had some pundits, I guess mostly the conservative ones and then they have their anchors repeat it. I have gone over the positions of all of those candidates and the ones that dont have * by their name are what i have next to them. Most are liberal, some moderates, very few conservatives.
Nice to know. Can't find any positions that would make me def on that though.
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2006, 06:23:55 PM »

What matters isn't so much their own personal views, as the views of their constituents.
Their constituents elected them on the positions they took. Therefore those are the views of the constituents.
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2006, 07:37:13 PM »

I already said this, but I'll mention it again. I think this vote was more about not voting for Republicans than it was casting a vote for Democrats. Much like what happened in Canada.
That's what happened in 94 too. It's not like Dems were a small minority. The house has been nearly even for over a decade.
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2006, 07:40:15 PM »

Well, the media seems to often describe social conservatives such as Schuler or Ellsworth as just "conservative." 

And Brown and Tester ran rather populist campaigns, not liberal campaigns overall, for example.  I personally think Tester won in spite of some of his more liberal positions, rather than because of those positions which is what some crazy DailyKos'ers seem to think.
Populist positions I stick with liberal positions. Because the politicians who are liberals are populists and vice versa. They are now nearly one in the same.
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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2006, 10:28:22 PM »


Liberal.  Pro-life to the point of birth, brags about how his father was an Anti-Vietnam activist.

Appleton is much more liberal than Green Bay, and definitely changed the balance of WI-08 when it was added to it in 2001.


Pro life until birth? What does that mean!!
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2006, 01:42:54 PM »

More points:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200611080006

Ignoring Facts, Washington Post Declares Nation 'Right of Center'
Democrats Won Big and Progressive Policies Enjoyed Broad Public Support


Washington, DC - Despite the apparent Democratic capture of both houses of Congress and a gain of six governorships in the November 7 midterm elections, The Washington Post's lead article about election results asserts that the United States is "a nation that leans slightly right of center."

The Post didn't offer a single example of an issue on which the nation "leans slightly the right of center," nor did it offer any examples to support its assertion that "the Democrats' victory was built on the back of more centrist candidates," or any frame of reference for what "centrist" means.

For the record, here's what happened last night in the nation that, according to the Post, "leans slightly right of center":

Democrats gained control of the House of Representatives, picking up at least 27 seats in the process.

Democrats apparently gained control of the Senate by defeating six Republican incumbents -- winning in Pennsylvania, Virginia, Montana, Ohio, Rhode Island, and Missouri.

Democrats gained six governorships, bringing their total to 28. Democrats now hold governorships in New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Arizona, New Mexico, Oregon, Wyoming, Montana, and Arkansas, among other states.

South Dakota voters rejected a sweeping ban on abortion; California and Oregon rejected parental notification laws. Arizona rejected a ban on gay marriage.

Six states voted on initiatives to raise the minimum wage; all six passed.
Missouri voters passed a ballot initiative in support of stem cell research.
Though the Post didn't tell readers what the phrase "more centrist candidates" means, it is worth noting that the vast majority of policy proposals and issue positions backed by most national Democratic leaders enjoys the support of at least a plurality of Americans. As Media Matters for America explained last week, many of them have overwhelming public support:

Raise the minimum wage for the first time since 1997: The current federal minimum wage of $5.15 an hour means that a person working five days a week, 52 weeks a year would earn a mere $10,712 a year. Republicans have refused to raise the minimum wage without including massive tax breaks for the rich. According to a recent Gallup poll (subscription required), 86 percent of Americans would approve of such an increase of the minimum wage.

Extend health coverage to the uninsured: Gallup found that 79 percent would approve of such legislation.

Allow the purchase of imported prescription drugs, which are often cheaper: According to Gallup, 72 percent of Americans would approve.
Implement the recommendations of the 9-11 Commission: According to Gallup, 62 percent of Americans would approve.

Though it went unstated, the Post may have been referring instead to "litmus test" issues like abortion and gun control. But even on those hot-button issues, polling shows that the progressive position is more popular with voters than the conservative position. For example:

Support for reproductive rights is the majority position in America. A Newsweek poll conducted in late October found that 53 percent of Americans said they sympathize with the "pro-choice" position; only 39 percent described themselves as sympathetic to the "right-to-life" position.
Support for reasonable gun-safety laws is the majority position in America. Though PollingReport.com lists no polls about gun control conducted since 2004, it shows that the Gallup poll has consistently found support for "more strict" gun laws to be in the mid-50s to high-60s going back to 1990. Those who think laws should be "less strict" have not exceeded 12 percent in any Gallup poll in that time.

A majority of Americans favor legal recognition of gay and lesbian relationships.
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2006, 10:14:30 PM »

What the hell is this piece of an article?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/10/new.dems/index.html

First of all, Casey is no conservative. Only 4 of the new house dems can be classified as such. Tester is actually very liberal, more liberal then Hillary Clinton and John Kerry probably.
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