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Question: Are you worried Trump will win in 2020?
#1
Yes I am planning to move to Canada if he does.
 
#2
Yes but if he wins I am not moving.
 
#3
No I want him to win again.
 
#4
I'm neutral.
 
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Total Voters: 92

Author Topic: Are you worried Trump will win in 2020?  (Read 4061 times)
Progressive Pessimist
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E: -6.71, S: -7.65

« on: August 05, 2018, 04:36:40 PM »

Yes. I never underestimated him in 2016 and I will certainly not do that again in 2020. I don't know what to expect from the 2020 campaign season, and those unknowns could be what gives Trump another win. If he wins again, I won't be surprised but I think I will be done with this country for real. If I am in a better place financially, professionally, mentally, and personally I may very well attempt to leave the country. I don't think I would be able to take it anymore, I'm already pretty close to this point as is.
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Progressive Pessimist
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Posts: 34,512
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E: -6.71, S: -7.65

« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2018, 06:24:08 PM »

I am not worried about a Trump victory in 2020. While I do not like Trump, did not and will not vote for him, and would prefer that he loses, I also recognize that the 2022 midterms would serve as a check upon his Presidency, and that he won't do any more harm then he already has. If anything, a Trump victory in 2020 will, I believe, help pave the way for a realignment in our electorate that may benefit the Democrats in the long run.

The long run being the next 8 years, after which it switches back to the GOP for 8 years, and then so on and so on just like it's been going since 1992.

I was talking about a realignment that is akin to what was predicted by TheDoctor in his "Between the Majorities" timeline, one that sees the Democrats returning to their populist, working-class roots and Republicans becoming a socially moderate, technocratic party. A realignment similar to those of 1860, 1896, 1932, and 1980.

Why can't that happen if Trump loses in 2020? The Democrats aren't going to run a populist, working-class candidate?

A Trump victory in 2020 would probably be to the benefit of the Democrats in the long term, because they could make more substantive gains in the 2022 midterms.

So, supposing they have a good midterm in 2018, and a hypothetically good cycle in 2020, why do they need yet another midterm? Two good cycles isn't good enough to get the seats you guys want?

A lot of those seats that the Democrats may gain this year are not going to stay with them forever.
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Progressive Pessimist
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Posts: 34,512
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E: -6.71, S: -7.65

« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2018, 08:20:27 PM »

Of course I am not worried as I would support him. But I really right now think his re-election is wishful thinking. 

So, why was there not an answer that you are not worried because he will not be re-elected? At least a few of you must believe that.

Or, have all of you been so traumatized by the 2016 election results that you are afraid to feel that way.

By the way I also think he could do some great things that could re-elect him.  I mean what other President has followed policies that have the currencies of Turkey, Iran, and Russia collapsing at the same time and all for good reasons.


To your credit, you might be the first Trump supporter I have seen on this forum that isn't downright cocky and arrogant about his re-election chances. Most other Trump supporters seem to think he has it in the bag.
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