Was Virginia being "safe dem as Illinois, New York, etc" meme the worst take in recent history?

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I honestly can  not think of a worse take.

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Yes, but it seems like it was pretty much true for Colorado, lol.

yea, haha. Colorado will likely vote to the left of NJ in 2024 and maybe Illinois and Oregon.

GOP biggest hurdle for winning VA in 2024 is the fact that there are many states far easier for them to win, so they will likely bypass it.

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I don't think most people really thought VA was as Democratic at the presidential level as those states, and that the GOP had a very high floor still. And most people here are fairly aware of the idiosyncratic nature of gubernatorial/state level elections where local issues make them uncomparable to the presidency.

I have it likely Dem in 2024 out of caution as I expect the margin to be under 10%.

But with the gop losing places in Virginia Beach in a climate like 2022, I do not really see a path for them there in 2024. it is not 2016 anymore in which the gop had a path.

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No. Virginia will never vote Republcian at the presidential level as long as MAGA controls the GOP. Youngkin was able to con people to think he was a George W. Bush/Mitt Romney Republican.

If the 2024 Republian nominee is MAGA, VA is safe D

Virginia would not vote for a George W. Bush Republican today despite the 21,000 Cia Agents (of which I doubt even a majority live in Virginia).

Mitt Romney did not even carry it.