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ComradeCarter
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« on: August 17, 2013, 01:14:30 AM »

Equally hateful, but not equally damaging to contemporary society or individuals. While Christian bashing is not exactly helpful for anything, you can criticize the culture and its effects easily without being hateful. The Christian in America also has a much larger emotional safety net than the homosexual who cannot change and is more likely to feel hopelessly isolated and ashamed. I've never heard of teenagers killing themselves because of bullying due to their inescapable belief in the Jesus. The impact of real hatred towards homosexuals is far deeper and much more scarring. To think otherwise in a western country is astoundingly shallow.
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ComradeCarter
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2013, 08:36:37 AM »

Equally hateful, but not equally damaging to contemporary society or individuals. While Christian bashing is not exactly helpful for anything, you can criticize the culture and its effects easily without being hateful. The Christian in America also has a much larger emotional safety net than the homosexual who cannot change and is more likely to feel hopelessly isolated and ashamed. I've never heard of teenagers killing themselves because of bullying due to their inescapable belief in the Jesus. The impact of real hatred towards homosexuals is far deeper and much more scarring. To think otherwise in a western country is astoundingly shallow.

Apparently you don't live here. What you just said is very false.

I took a fair while to post what I posted, despite its relative brevity, so I'm a little bit annoyed that you didn't take the time you make more of an effort than "Actually, well, no, because nothing in particular besides that you don't live here so you don't know."

I do not live there currently, no. I grew up in America, lived the vast majority of my life there, my family lives there, and I go back regularly to see them (and, I admit, because I love being there during election season). I am an American. I grew up in a very Christian family and I was a true believer (albeit one who was always questioning the rest of the group).

I am also now a non-believer. And, I have always been a bisexual and a sexual deviant. I know what caused me more psychological trauma on a day by day basis, and it wasn't admitting to my family, friends, coworkers, or strangers that I was or wasn't a Christian. I know how it feels to be marginalized while also feeling accepted. I know how dread feels physically, emotionally, and psychologically. I have never felt dread from someone finding out that I believed in Jesus, or that I no longer believe in Jesus.

I'm not everyone, of course. But, when I have to walk home late at night on the streets, what scares me more - that I will get the sh**t kicked out of me because somehow some asshole knows I may be a f****t, or that somehow some asshole knows I may be a Christian?

Duh.
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