Israel general discussion

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Dumb question: how hard is it to tell Ashkenazi and Sephardic people apart? Is it really obvious to the eye, or would you need to listen to their accent or ask them directly to know?

Never tohougt about it,usually The ashkenazi looking more European while Sephardic looking more Middle Eastern.
Sometimes Sephardic has darker skin but not always,i am a Sephardic with really white skin.
Sephardic women

Ashkenazi women

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I think that the majority of their supporters will vote for Buskila despite their endorsement.

With Gilon definitely not and his supporters will mainly flock to Zandberg (they pushed for the endorsement). With Dabush, there weren’t all that many, some will move to Buskila but the majority will just stay home. Buskila hardly ran an inspiring campaign and instead of using it as a platform for the list primaries he managed to anger quite a lot of people. Can’t see anything but a landslide here

Many of the Gilon supporters feeling that Meretz not connecting with the public in the periphery,Buskila is much better option for them than Tamar(wich i like but she can't bring more votes to Mererz).
Endorsment is such overrated thing,i remind you that in the last Labour primary in the first round Peretz got 32% Margalit and Herzog got both also 32% together ,thay both endorsed Peretz and Gabbay still won.

I suspect you don't know how the reds (as they call themselves) work. They decided on that bottom to top, meaning they had 2 meetings with 500 supporters to decide who they will turn to. Gilon's group is very cohesive and it's not like he dictates the play there (prof. Gutwein does).

As to Buskila he might have been alternative, but he's clueless on economics and wouldn't give them the concessions they wanted (Tammy pretty much outsourced the economic part of the platform to them).

Bar for Peretz no one in Labour had any effective control on his voters so the analogy is unfit.

And as I said Buskila hardly ran an impressive campaign and Meretz members appreciate political experience and commitment more than to accept an absolute no one who came from no where with no clear positions.

Your distate from every sephard candidate is racist.

You do know that I’m Sephardic (half)? And a big supporter of Raz who is Sephardic. I just don’t like identity politics and instant politician. This is not a publicity contest, I want more competent politicians and Buskila fails to meet that standard (Peretz whom I don’t like is a very competent politician)

I never supported identity politics and Peretz never used identity politics,Gabbay actually tried to use idenity politics.
Gabbay is a total failure.

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Knesset channel reported that Kachlon going to return to the Likud.

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The hero conscientious objector Matam Hellman released from military service after 110 days in jail.
I hope that more young people like Hellman will refuse to join the IDF and to take part in the occupation.

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MK Oded Forer from the corrupt Yisrael Beytenu Party want to impeach MK Haneen Zoabi.
According to the undemocratic impeachment bill 90 MK's are needed to impeach another MK.
Coward Lapid support it,Ofer Shelah is against.

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MK Oded Forer from the corrupt Yisrael Beytenu Party want to impeach MK Haneen Zoabi.
According to the undemocratic impeachment law 90 MK's are needed to impeach another MK.
Coward Lapid support it,Ofer Shelah is against.

I like your lack of moral judgement when reporting news
(But hey, it's not like we don't have papers like Yisrael Hayom in Israel so it's fine)

Don't forget Channel 20.

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Why would Yisrael Beiteinu be corrupt?

numerous corruption allegations related to the party mechanism and municipal branches. A Chairman that escaped conviction oמ very shaky grounds and still hadn't explained half a million dollars that just popped into his daughters bank account. Numerous former MKs heading to jail on corruption charges.

There has never been and never will be 90 MKs who'll support impeachment without any criminal charges. And it will definitely not pass the supreme court that tends to look away from inner house processes but has its limits.

Few MK's Labour arleady supported the impeachment bill against Basel Ghattas.
And i wouldn't be surprised if phony Gabbay will support it either.

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Why would Yisrael Beiteinu be corrupt?

numerous corruption allegations related to the party mechanism and municipal branches. A Chairman that escaped conviction oמ very shaky grounds and still hadn't explained half a million dollars that just popped into his daughters bank account. Numerous former MKs heading to jail on corruption charges.

There has never been and never will be 90 MKs who'll support impeachment without any criminal charges. And it will definitely not pass the supreme court that tends to look away from inner house processes but has its limits.

Few NK's Labour arleady supported the impeachment bill against Basel Ghattas.
And i wouldn't be surprised if phony Gabbay will support it either.

You do remember that Ghattas had criminal charges against him, right?

Netanyahu is also faces a criminal charges and i don't see someone want to impeach him.

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Why would Yisrael Beiteinu be corrupt?

numerous corruption allegations related to the party mechanism and municipal branches. A Chairman that escaped conviction oמ very shaky grounds and still hadn't explained half a million dollars that just popped into his daughters bank account. Numerous former MKs heading to jail on corruption charges.

There has never been and never will be 90 MKs who'll support impeachment without any criminal charges. And it will definitely not pass the supreme court that tends to look away from inner house processes but has its limits.

Few NK's Labour arleady supported the impeachment bill against Basel Ghattas.
And i wouldn't be surprised if phony Gabbay will support it either.

You do remember that Ghattas had criminal charges against him, right?

Netanyahu is also face a criminal charges and i don't see someone want to impeach him.

This is irrelevant. Netanyahu is not yet convicted of any crime and evidence is not 100% clear. Ghattas was literally filmed smuggling phones into a prison.

What about the recordings in case 2000?

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Why would Yisrael Beiteinu be corrupt?

numerous corruption allegations related to the party mechanism and municipal branches. A Chairman that escaped conviction oמ very shaky grounds and still hadn't explained half a million dollars that just popped into his daughters bank account. Numerous former MKs heading to jail on corruption charges.

There has never been and never will be 90 MKs who'll support impeachment without any criminal charges. And it will definitely not pass the supreme court that tends to look away from inner house processes but has its limits.

Few NK's Labour arleady supported the impeachment bill against Basel Ghattas.
And i wouldn't be surprised if phony Gabbay will support it either.

You do remember that Ghattas had criminal charges against him, right?

Netanyahu is also face a criminal charges and i don't see someone want to impeach him.

This is irrelevant. Netanyahu is not yet convicted of any crime and evidence is not 100% clear. Ghattas was literally filmed smuggling phones into a prison.

What about the recordings in case 2000?

...I'm not saying Bibi is not guilty. You know I don't like him one bit. But even with the recordings and all the other overwhelming evidence, there's no 100% way of saying "he did a crime" without judicial conviction. Ghattas was filmed doing a crime, so there was a reason he was arrested immediately after the Knesset revoked his immunity.

And still the impeachment bill is undemocratic and should not be used in any case.
All the Labour's MK that supported it lost my vote in the primary.

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Netanyahu and Likud getting a boost from Trump's Iran Deal decision. Bleh. I was hoping I'd get to see a left-wing government this decade, I guess not.

At least one good thing, though; if Levy-Abekasis and her party continue to rise, Liberman and his goons may fall below the threshold. Hopefully she refuses to work with Netayahu.

Heh, unlikely. My only hope is that Netanyahu gets indicted and his spell gets broken.

It's not going to be soon since "Attorney General" Mandelbit is Netayhau's freind.

I have a question, if Israel used FPTP do you think Bibi would still be PM or would he be defeated . Also how do you think the next election with FPTP would go

On current polls it's hard to see Bibi losing under any system, but in general it would depends on which parties would run and which parties would merge.

Amir Peretz could dafeat Bibi but he was too Sephardic,too Socialist and too Leftie for the avreage Labour member.
Now we are stuck with the curropt Likud Government.
There is an intersting option that MK Meirav Micaheli suggested to kibbutz members: https://twitter.com/RotterNews/status/1004958456514826240
We can join to the Likud (להתפקד) and influence their list.
https://www.likud.org.il/images/documents/register-to-likud.pdf