The Atlas Asylum of absurd/ignorant posts IX

[beesley]

Hopefully Republicans will CRUSH Democrats and put them out of Business for good!

Do you profit from the destruction of America? No seriously, I know a lot of people do so maybe your stance makes sense.

America doesn't need Socialists running the Government!

So why do you want them in office then?

President Biden revealed his "True Intentions" this week by saying I only care about big Cities, big Government, etc.

This entire thread.

[beesley]

Although, to be honest, a quick poke around Wokingham on Google Maps wouldn't make me guess it was the least-deprived constituency in the whole UK, or even particularly far above the top 25%, so perhaps the rankings mean less than I would have thought.

Can someone explain why the UK is honestly so hideous in terms of housing? The houses look shoddily built, are far too close together, and seem mostly attached to each other. I'm assuming some of this has to be due to the shockingly high number of council estates everywhere, but I've never lived in the UK. Not to mention the embarrassingly low average salaries to the point where $100k seems to be higher than even a doctor's income somehow.

Back to the point at hand, it seems that there is a pretty interesting difference in dynamic at hand here between the US and the UK. The UK has the bottom falling out for Labour akin to the Democrats hemorrhaging support across the Midwest and in White Working Class locales nationwide. Based off the table attached, however, it is clear that Tories somehow still enjoy massive support across the board in the wealthiest constituencies as well while LibDems seem to be second to them as opposed to Labour in certain areas.

It's honestly sort of funny seeing that the Democrats easily made up for their losses with the growing and prosperous suburban areas across the country while Labour could not make such gains, at least at a similar scale. Of the 10 wealthiest places in the country (according to Bloomberg, which doesn't include certain areas in the Northeast properly that also would have voted Biden), every single one except Highland Park, TX voted for Biden, and he even flipped Cherry Hills Village, CO. Something like this doesn't seem possible in the UK at all given the concentration of wealth in Southern England around London, with the wealth outside of this area being rural/exurban rather than properly urban or suburban. You have the odd spots like Cheshire south of Manchester or the Oxbridge areas maybe, but other than that I really can't think of any other wealthy suburban areas in the country, whereas every decently sized US metro has at least one suburban constituency/district.

Tories in the UK seem absolutely dominant in such areas within London somehow even after realignment, which would be like if Republicans consistently held the NJ-7s, IL-6s, and CA-45s of the country as Democrats lost the MI-5s, OH-13s, and IL-17s, but even had places like NY-10 or NY-12 that are considered safely Democrat here but boast several billionaires. It seems that the UK is just too poor compared to the US, less educated, and less diverse, to the point where this sort of suburban educated wealth based shift is not properly possible. That isn't even getting into the massive age gap in voting patterns, which doesn't affect Democrats to the extent it does Labour, who need to paint a better image as the working class party (a lost cause unless they become anti-immigration or go down other unsavory social policy paths, imo) or accelerate trends faster and capture Tory strongholds in the wealthy suburbs/exurbs. They certainly can't afford to lose the Hartlepools of the nation if they go with the former and need to win places like Kensington and even the outer areas like Esher and Walton or Epsom and Ewell for the latter strategy to capture a majority.

[beesley]

It would be bluer than DC. What many Americans don't realize is that their country is uniquely right-wing.

good grief

[beesley]

Not sure why this thread was ever renamed.

I can own a gun, don't need a license to breathe, don't have to partake in the weird worship of a random 100 year old woman, drive on the right side of the road, and can't be arrested for mean tweets.

yawn... I thought those Americans who said things like this were restricted to the comments section of the Fox News Instagram account

[beesley]

In Maine, you have people playing high school football, going to evangelical church services, and voting for republican candidates for statewide office that would be too radical to be electable in Canada

In New Brunswick, you have people playing Hockey, staying home on Sunday, and conservatives who are fine with Universal Healthcare, Legal Weed, and LGBT people.

[beesley]

For Canada, it is pretty straight forward asides from maybe BQ

Liberals would be ALDE
Conservatives - ECR
NDP - S&D
Greens - Greens/EFA

BQ is tough one but probably best fit would be EFA.  ID while nationalistic like them is a little too far to right.

For US that is tougher by my guess is

GOP - ECR
Dems - ALDE, but perhaps EDP. 

Why wouldn't the GOP be ID and why wouldn't the Democrats be ECR?

[beesley]

America is the dominant economic, cultural, scientific, and military power in the world.  Our ideas of geopolitical morality have dominated the global conversation for over a century since Wilson's Fourteen Points.  The Apollo Program, the Manhattan Project, the invention of the internet, our victories in WW2 and the Cold War, and the eradication/mitigation of most deadly diseases, are all tremendous accomplishments that will still be studied and talked about 1,000 years from now.  We have built most of the engineering marvels of the modern world, including the Hoover Dam, the Panama Canal, the transcontinental railroad, the interstate highway system, the Golden Gate Bridge and (until 1998) all the world's skyscrapers. We have the highest standard of living in the world[/b] and continue to push the envelope on what that even means. We take civil rights more seriously than any other nation in the worldand continue to use our global influence to force other nations to follow our lead, improving life for billions of people around the globe.

Yes, we are a great country.  Four years of having used toilet paper for a president doesn't change that.

You know people think I hate the US, which is untrue, there's a lot to like and dislike, but this is delusional.