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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #100 on: May 19, 2020, 02:14:41 PM »



This is a good point.  I think we could reach a status quo where the smaller types of gatherings are mostly open (with some precautions) while large gatherings such as sporting events are still a no-no until a vaccine is available.

Concerts are a no no, but sporting events could reduce capacity and seal off some seats in an irregular pattern to create some distance while also allowing fans to attend.

Except seating isn't even half the issue. You got queuing up in ticket and admission lines, contact whatever people leave their seats, waiting in concession stand lines, going to the restroom, Etc. Not to mention the price per seat when only one seat every 6 ft is for sale is going to be astronomical. I'm not that interested in reopening sporting events to put the maintenance staff Health at risk for increasingly wealthy fans to be able to watch live.

I'm not saying any solution has to be foolproof, but this one is full of major problems.

There's going to be maybe no more than 200 cases per day nationwide by september, I see no reason why any measures are necessary at all at that point in time.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #101 on: May 19, 2020, 02:22:38 PM »

One of the lowest priorities for reopening ought to be amusement parks.

I know things have got to reopen, and I've enjoyed amusement parks as much as anyone. But that should be a lower priority than parks, beaches, most businesses, and most outdoor spaces.

Actually I would consider them a priority. This is an industry that is on shaky ground and has been for quite some time. Either we bail them out, or they reopen in June with some safety measures such as ride sanitation and reduced capacity. The alternative is the parks closing by the tens.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #102 on: May 19, 2020, 02:25:21 PM »


There's going to be maybe no more than 200 cases per day nationwide by september, I see no reason why any measures are necessary at all at that point in time.

What makes you say that?

By that point the virus would have been blasted by summer heat for three months.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #103 on: May 19, 2020, 03:37:14 PM »


There's going to be maybe no more than 200 cases per day nationwide by september, I see no reason why any measures are necessary at all at that point in time.

What makes you say that?

By that point the virus would have been blasted by summer heat for three months.

There are studies that have debunked this theory months ago. Warmer temperatures do have a minimal impact, but not that much overall. My belief is that the numbers will somewhat stabilize in June, but a second wave will hit in October since vast majorities of populations lack immunity.

The virus is too resistant and far spread that I can ever be contained again without vaccine. Or through herd immunity if the spread happens extremely fast (causing the healthcare system to collapse with many more deaths). Unfortunately, I have to say.

True. I think a second wave will hit closer to december though.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #104 on: May 20, 2020, 12:05:32 AM »

Lol children don’t get sick from this but nice try
This is the most classless disgusting post I've seen in a while. For some reason you've been in my good books recently, but WOW.
It's an objective fact, pretty much all children are asymptomatic when infected with the virus.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #105 on: May 20, 2020, 02:12:06 PM »


Talk about unnecessary.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #106 on: May 20, 2020, 04:47:14 PM »

Illinois Gov Pritzker moving to Phase 3 on June 1, reopening Retail, Manufacturing, almost all simple outdoor activities, and outdoor seating for restaurants.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #107 on: May 21, 2020, 01:12:19 AM »

I’m not as concerned about the human challenge trials. They are testing directly on monkeys and they have a 95% biological similarity to us.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #108 on: May 21, 2020, 12:16:26 PM »


This isn't a second wave, it's a result of the flaw of just trying to control a localized outbreak and leave it at that.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #109 on: May 21, 2020, 05:58:49 PM »

This week so far has been pretty disappointing, we definitely aren’t seeing the sustained decreases that we saw last week. Hopefully it’s just an anomaly, but it could be because of our poorly implemented reopenings (without mask laws, contact tracing, and with things such as sit-in restaurants open in some places)
Today looks like it will be no exception, with the total numbers probably being around the same place they were a week ago.

Even though the numbers for every day this week have been lower than last week? Our cases are 4k lower than last Thursday per Silver's numbers, despite us having a massive amount more tests. Deaths are also way down from last week. You actually have to look at the data before saying things like this.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #110 on: May 21, 2020, 06:12:04 PM »



Decent numbers for today, especially when comparing to last Thursday.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #111 on: May 21, 2020, 06:25:48 PM »



Decent numbers for today, especially when comparing to last Thursday.
Even the source Silver uses shows that case numbers have plateaus recently.



Um, testing is exponentially increasing. You're smarter than this.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #112 on: May 21, 2020, 07:44:21 PM »


USA is starting to find a fairly uniform declining rate in Active Cases. In comparison to previous predictions, it looks like the USA is going to have Active Cases well into June.


I think the US active cases are actually decreasing a lot steeper than this.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #113 on: May 21, 2020, 10:39:29 PM »

That's a noticeable spike in cases. We haven't been in the upper 20ks for weeks. It looks like the states that are rushing to re-open are reigniting the blasted virus. Sigh... Let's hope it's an outlier.

I guess testing surges don't exist. In that factor, today was a great day.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #114 on: May 21, 2020, 11:06:49 PM »

That's a noticeable spike in cases. We haven't been in the upper 20ks for weeks. It looks like the states that are rushing to re-open are reigniting the blasted virus. Sigh... Let's hope it's an outlier.

I guess testing surges don't exist. In that factor, today was a great day.

The 28,000 cases, or more, would have still been there even if we hadn't looked for them.

The nationwide cases aren't going back up like the alarmists are suggesting, is my point.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #115 on: May 21, 2020, 11:11:41 PM »

The nationwide cases aren't going back up like the alarmists are suggesting, is my point.

You don't know that. The surge in detected cases may be caused by the surge in testing, but the surge in testing may be caused by a surge in infections!

That's not how testing works.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #116 on: May 22, 2020, 06:43:10 PM »

344k tests today, 23,923 positive - 6.9% positive

Silver's numbers are a bit skewed because Texas delayed reporting their number of tests until after Silver reported them, despite reporting their cases. The positive % should be lower in reality.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #117 on: May 22, 2020, 06:49:10 PM »

Yesterday's annoying 28k cases were due to two states primarily, California and Florida, which are seeing some ripple effect. As Illinois and several other states are starting to decline currently in new cases, we should see this weird mini resurgence wither away.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #118 on: May 22, 2020, 08:35:30 PM »

Republican suburban outreach reaches Texas.



Putting ourselves and our loved ones at risk to own the libs. Apparently the whole first world is killing their own citizens to hurt Trump.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #119 on: May 23, 2020, 10:43:48 PM »

We aren't at 100k deaths yet, which is weird cause I would have thought we would have reached it two days ago. We probably won't reach it until Monday at worst.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #120 on: May 24, 2020, 01:15:11 PM »


LMAO that's hilarious. It's almost like heat exists, people literally REFUSE to factor it in.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #121 on: May 24, 2020, 02:37:11 PM »

Even though we are months removed, and the weather is now warm, in my head it still feels like it’s March. Anyone else?

Kinda feel that, but for me it's more like the days are moving so fast that I always think the actual date is days or weeks ago.

I keep thinking we're well into June, because this nonsense has gone on for so long.

Two months went by FAST imo.
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« Reply #122 on: May 24, 2020, 04:49:40 PM »

Lowest deaths today since March 30th.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #123 on: May 24, 2020, 05:54:15 PM »


We can't "end" the pandemic, we may reduce it's numbers, but it will resurge in the winter no matter what. We should be fast forwarding to herd immunity.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #124 on: May 25, 2020, 02:31:10 AM »

I think the US just needs to continue accelerating the testing at the rate that it has been, and begin contact tracing. We can also do local restriction measures during future local flareups of the virus.
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