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« on: August 05, 2019, 06:13:20 PM »

He was also a violent misogynist who wrote kill and rape lists, and was a part of a metal band that made music about murdering women.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he was a twitter troll trying to make fun of antifa, bernie, warren, "Kamala is a cop" type people. His twitter talks about gun control but then he ordered an assault weapon from like a thousand miles away. That doesn't add up. He also killed six black people, and while that could have been coincidental, it could also have been premeditated.

Also, are there any other sources other than Heavy purporting his leftie twitter posts?
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2019, 06:19:00 PM »

He was also a violent misogynist who wrote kill and rape lists, and was a part of a metal band that made music about murdering women.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he was a twitter troll trying to make fun of antifa, bernie, warren, "Kamala is a cop" type people. His twitter talks about gun control but then he ordered an assault weapon from like a thousand miles away. That doesn't add up. He also killed six black people, and while that could have been coincidental, it could also have been premeditated.

Also, are there any other sources other than Heavy purporting his leftie twitter posts?

Stop deflecting, and just deal with reality.

The reality that white men, especially fringe rightwing white supremacists, have killed numerous people and your president scumbag emboldens them?
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2019, 06:30:30 PM »

Also, are there any other sources other than Heavy purporting his leftie twitter posts?

Nope. Not a single source. Just the right-wing fake news site Heavy.com.

Where's the proof that heavy.com is a rightwing fake news site?
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2019, 06:48:16 PM »

Motives are an important aspect of understanding why these mass shootings occur, but the how is more important. And that "how" is guns. Regardless of the motives that someone has to want to murder people in cold blood, easy access to guns makes it infinitely easier for someone to act upon that motive, political or not. That's the common denominator between Dayton, El Paso, Gilroy, and the nearly infinite number of past examples.

Now with this example, I'll echo what everyone else is saying, that this particular act of violence wasn't motivated out of politics like with El paso. This cretin just happened to have had political views, as everyone does, but that doesn't mean it should obfuscate the real issue at hand. 

In spite of that, I almost wish it was politically motivated because then maybe it would finally be what it takes to get Republicans to address gun issues. I could see their hatred for the left taking priority over their love for guns, because everything with the right usually involves spite taking priority over something affirmative. Actually, I mean that entirely facetiously, because we already had an incident where a leftist attempted to assassinate Republican representatives and managed to injure Steve Scalise. Yet, as we saw, even when it's their own lives, Republicans will not budge on addressing gun violence in a meaningful way. So it's hopeless.

Don't kid yourself though, I'm sure Fox News and the entire right wing machine will be doing what Grassr00ts is and relating this massacre to political views anyway, even as it's a stretch. They'll claim that Elizabeth Warren is somehow to blame for this along with video games. Elizabeth Warren at least has the fortitude to condemn someone who supports her, I have yet to see Trump do that or even address that elephant int he room anytime one of his supporters attempted or were successful at engaging in  bloodshed.

100%. This guy clearly had his own political views, but he was at heart a violent, murderous, and clearly hateful person.
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2019, 11:06:00 PM »

Yup. Of course this happened. Right wing denizens like Grasr00ts and Fuzzy immediately seized on Betts left-leaning ideology so they can muddy the waters and lessen the evilness of white supremacy. "Well, I guess both sides are bad." "If Betts' ideology wasn't a factor in this shooting then neither was Crusius', so maybe white supremacy isn't a threat."

Guess what? Betts was also an extreme misogynist and had a kill list and a rape list of women. He was obsessed with violence and mass shootings. That's definitely pretty similar to many right wing shooters we've had so I'm not surprised the blue avatars haven't mentioned this.

And let's be real, there's a huge fundamental difference between Betts' pretty standard left-wing political leanings and Crusius' sociopolitical ideology. There's no "both sides". One is a set of beliefs on how the economy should be structured and such with little regard to racial or ethnic composition of a state, the other is an explicitly violent ideology that supporters happily admit is geared towards ethnic cleansing and genocide.

Of course rightwingers want to muddy the water, but it is pretty obvious that Betts' leftwing Bernie leaning political beliefs did not factor into him killing all those people. Crusius' did, his killings were predicated upon violent racial cleansing and violent intimidation of Latinx people. He literally wrote about it. Betts' killings came from the same violent psychology as Crusius' did, except it was divorced from political ideology. Except y'all righties can't stand that and refuse to understand that white supremacist terrorism doesn't have a counterpart in mainstream leftism.
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2019, 11:52:31 PM »

Also, the body trail left by white supremacists across the Western world in just the 21st century alone would give any mythical far left murderer a tough competition.
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2019, 10:36:58 PM »

Anyways, an investigation just revealed that his extreme misogyny was a psychological cause for the massacre, much like many male mass murderers, and not any of his political beliefs.
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