The “Who is running in 2020?” tea leaves thread, Part 3

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Moulton says he doesn't think a presidential bid is the best way he could serve the country right now.

Here's the relevant exchange:

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"What does Shermanesque mean?" Oh he's REALLY going for that WWC vote.

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Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton, while saying that she doesn’t want to run again, does say that she wants to be president:

https://www.recode.net/2018/10/27/18032550/hillary-clinton-kara-swisher-92y-recode-decode-live-podcast-transcript

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Hmm

I don't think she's egotistical enough to believe she'd win in a crowded primary. They'd eat her alive.

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Harris has been “building a network for black candidates”:

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/10/kamala-harris-is-building-a-network-for-black-candidates.html

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Bernie was the only Senator to endorse Gillum in the primary. I guess he just wasn't the right type of black for Harris. Harris endorsed white Buffy Wicks over black Hispanic lesbian immigrant Jovanka Beckles. You only hear about identity politics when it benefits the establishment candidate.

It's not like she endorsed Graham and tried to take Gillum down. But go off

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Harris's team has poached O'Rourke's digital consultant:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/16/politics/shelby-cole-beto-orourke-kamala-harris-2020/index.html

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Hmm. Interesting. If Beto is indeed planning a run, wouldn't he have tried to retain most of his crew? Obviously they must be a great crew since he generates so much online hype and buzz and almost won Texas, so it seems he let her slip through the cracks. I mean, he could be sending emails and having meetings asking his staff to stay on board for a Pres campaign and she just said "I'll work for Kamala instead"

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/05/politics/andrew-gillum-barack-obama-meeting/index.html
Literally everyone is running

Boo! Go away Andrew! Beto may have lost, but he lost like a martyr, same goes for Abrams. They met or exceeded expectations. Gillum couldn't even beat Ron f***ing DeSantis in a Democratic-favoring environment with all the polling on his side. He doesn't even have the excuse that Nelson may have about typical Floridian incompetence costing him votes. He needs to accept that either his charisma isn't enough to get him elected, or that he cannot get elected in a state like Florida; that would be the same case for the country as a whole.

... Anyways...

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Also, O'Rourke's only hesitation is not wanting to spend so much more time away from his family:

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So, Beto is obviously running.

Yes, because this is his chance. He may never get a better chance than now.

The interesting part about Beto is that people are actually asking him to run rather than him announcing. Its clear that Harris Gillibrand and Booker have always marked interest. They have a base of supporters but those supporters aren't die hard and don't care that much. The enthusiastic support he gets should help in Iowa.
Btw does anyone have Beto's numbers on African Americans in Texas?

Citation needed.

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Also, O'Rourke's only hesitation is not wanting to spend so much more time away from his family:

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So, Beto is obviously running.

Yes, because this is his chance. He may never get a better chance than now.

The interesting part about Beto is that people are actually asking him to run rather than him announcing. Its clear that Harris Gillibrand and Booker have always marked interest. They have a base of supporters but those supporters aren't die hard and don't care that much. The enthusiastic support he gets should help in Iowa.
Btw does anyone have Beto's numbers on African Americans in Texas?

Citation needed.

Even if you are a huge fan of any of them, it's not debatable that nobody gets excited for Booker, Harris, or Gillibrand nearly as much as O'Rourke.

Okay. Citation needed since you didn't give me one. Nobody is a strong word.

Current polling doesn't suggest Harris a frontrunner. I have a feeling she'll be the Democratic Scott Walker.

Yeah, on paper (i.e. demographically) she should be a really strong candidate. But for a Senator from California (which should be enough to get her a few % in the national polls) she is not polling well so far. Of course, the campaign hasn't even started, so she has some time. But she is not going to start out as a front runner. She will have to earn it.

The race hasn't started yet and she still doesn't have name recognition that matches Beto's hype. Once she and everyone announces, that will change and her polling numbers will rise. Y'alls hope that she is the next Scott Walker is pretty obviously wishful thinking since she is a formidable opponent to the sacred cow that is Beto. Weren't most of you making fun of Republicans for slamming Beto and accused them of doing so out of fear because they know he'd beat Trump? Well the growing Beto Bro dismissal of Kamala sure looks similar.

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Also, O'Rourke's only hesitation is not wanting to spend so much more time away from his family:

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So, Beto is obviously running.

Yes, because this is his chance. He may never get a better chance than now.

The interesting part about Beto is that people are actually asking him to run rather than him announcing. Its clear that Harris Gillibrand and Booker have always marked interest. They have a base of supporters but those supporters aren't die hard and don't care that much. The enthusiastic support he gets should help in Iowa.
Btw does anyone have Beto's numbers on African Americans in Texas?

Citation needed.

Even if you are a huge fan of any of them, it's not debatable that nobody gets excited for Booker, Harris, or Gillibrand nearly as much as O'Rourke.

Okay. Citation needed since you didn't give me one. Nobody is a strong word.

Obviously I'm using hyperbole, but fine I'll take the bait. How about the fact that in the Harvard-Harris poll O'Rourke is polling 3/4, only behind people with way more name recognition, despite getting well known on the political scene only a couple months ago?

A poll in December 2018 for primaries that won't start till January 2020? Yeah, I'll pass on buying those. And Beto made waves for himself in the Senate race, doesn't translate to him beating every one else easily in 2020.

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Also, O'Rourke's only hesitation is not wanting to spend so much more time away from his family:

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So, Beto is obviously running.

Yes, because this is his chance. He may never get a better chance than now.

The interesting part about Beto is that people are actually asking him to run rather than him announcing. Its clear that Harris Gillibrand and Booker have always marked interest. They have a base of supporters but those supporters aren't die hard and don't care that much. The enthusiastic support he gets should help in Iowa.
Btw does anyone have Beto's numbers on African Americans in Texas?

Citation needed.

Even if you are a huge fan of any of them, it's not debatable that nobody gets excited for Booker, Harris, or Gillibrand nearly as much as O'Rourke.

Okay. Citation needed since you didn't give me one. Nobody is a strong word.

Obviously I'm using hyperbole, but fine I'll take the bait. How about the fact that in the Harvard-Harris poll O'Rourke is polling 3/4, only behind people with way more name recognition, despite getting well known on the political scene only a couple months ago?

A poll in December 2018 for primaries that won't start till January 2020? Yeah, I'll pass on buying those. And Beto made waves for himself in the Senate race, doesn't translate to him beating every one else easily in 2020.

That is not what we are talking about! You wanted a citation on there being more energy diehard supporters around Beto O'Rourke compared to Booker/Harris/Gillibrand. The fact that a failed Senate candidate is polling higher then the three people in question, despite them being constantly in the news the past 2 years, shows that not a whole lot of people get energized about them.

I just answered you. I wanted a citation that Kamala doesn't have diehard supporters, and you gave me ONE poll. Not really saying much and doesn't disprove that Kamala has diehard supporters. But judging from your giant and unsightly sig I'm sure you'll dismiss that and go on about how Beto is destined to win.

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Harris is running and gross lefties are already spreading about her investing in private prisons. Bernie people really do wanna have Trump win a second term huh?

Now i know how bad Beto fans must feel. I know I was VERY suspicious of him but now not so much. I mean Kamala is my first choice but Beto is now my second choice due to how horrible ☭ twitter lied about him.