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« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2018, 03:00:10 AM »


Guess
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« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2018, 01:26:48 PM »

Something to do with state names and the alphabet?

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« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2018, 03:19:54 AM »


Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale - 315 EVs
Bob Dole/Ronald Reagan

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« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2018, 04:11:09 AM »
« Edited: February 19, 2018, 04:17:14 AM by cookiedamage »

Here's the US if Reconstruction produced a greater degree of racial rapprochement, less white supremacy, and an economically stronger Dixie. In this TL the south is strongly Social Democrat, the Midwest and mountain West is solid GOP, the upland south is competitive, and states like Virginia, Connecticut, NJ, and Penn are battleground due to the strong Liberal Party, which is a socially left, economically moderate party.

SocDems are the party of urbanites, leftists, working poor, and minorities. Catholics, Jews, gays, Latinos, etc.

GOP is a big tent between white protestant upper class business types and lower to middle class protestant natvists.

Liberals are the party of center leftists and moderates, mostly white but not overwhelmingly. Mostly protestant but 55% protestant 30% Catholic 15% Jewish. Party of the suburbs

Moderate SocDem victory


Strong SocDem victory


Moderate GOP victory


Strong GOP victory


Moderate Liberal victory


Strong Liberal Victory


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« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2018, 10:33:18 PM »


Stephen Walter (D-HI)/Doris DeAndrade (D-FL) - 349 EVs - 53.24%

Stephen MacCaffertey (R-GA)/Joshua Stall (R-PA) - 189 EVs - 45.32%


Kathryn DiAngeoletti (R-TN)/Oliver Harris (D-NV) - 309 EVs - 43.45%

Nate Carborough (S-CA)/Amber Wentworth (S-VA) - 225 EVs - 43.78%

Stephen Walter (D-HI)/Phill Smith (D-MD) - 4 EVs - 10.65%




Kathryn DiAngeoletti (R-TN)/Oliver Harris (I-NV) - 395 EVs - 45.54%

Melinda Estevez (S-KY)/Alexis Parra (S-MA) - 84 EVs - 36.33%

Richard Guzman (SD-NY)/Alice Johnson (SD-CA) - 43 EVs - 11.32%

Magda Azar Hassan (D-WA)/Phyllis Slifer (D-RI) - 16 EVs - 6.04%


Richard Guzman (SD-NY)/Lucinda Jordan (SD-NM) - 271 EVs - 47.65%

John Crowley (R-IA)/Clarence Hough (R-OK) - 260 EVs - 45.34%

Jill Vincent (S-WA)/Adrian McClintock (S-NJ) - 7 EVs - 6.40 %
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« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2018, 08:28:07 PM »


Used to RCP demographic calculator to make both parties receive about 50% of the white vote at 75% turnout. Used some liberties.
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« Reply #31 on: February 23, 2018, 11:30:52 PM »


Guess. Pretty easy.
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« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2018, 02:27:43 AM »
« Edited: February 24, 2018, 02:37:48 AM by cookiedamage »

2006 Election: A Challenger Rises

Gov. Mary Challenger (D-MO)/Sen. Henry Cortes (D-CA) - 358 EVs - 53.45%

Pres. Willy Fitzgerald (R-CO)/Vice Pres. Calinda Mayer (R-GA) - 180 EVs - 45.43%

Mary's Day 2010

Pres. Mary Challenger (D-MO)/Vice Pres. Henry Cortes (D-CA) - 354 EVs - 52.54%

Sen. Mary Joyce (R-ID)/Sen. Joshua Kilmer (R-NJ) - 184 EVs - 47.09%

2014: President Challenger is Shaken

Pres. Mary Challenger(D-MO)/Vice Pres. Henry Cortes (D-CA) - 303 EVs -
 49.76%

Gov. Michael Hoff (R-TN)/Gov. George Garland (R-ME) - 235 EVs - 46.87%

2018: The Disgraced, the Tarnished, and the Fascist

Ret. Gen. Derrick DeMontis (R-PA)/Sen. Victor Deere (R-KY) - 284 EVs - 43.76%

Vice Pres. Henry Cortes (D-CA)/Fmr. Amb. Valina Chau (D-NJ) - 218 EVs -
46.35%

Ret. Lt. Com. Mike Douglas (N-OR)/Mr. Dylan Perrie (N-NC) - 36 EVs - 7.65%

N = Nativist, Populist, and Fascist Coalition Party (NPFC)
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Mary Challenger's average first term popularity (2007 to 2011) = 57%

Mary Challenger's average second term popularity (2011 to 2015) = 54%

Mary Challenger's average third term popularity (2015 to 2019) = 45%
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« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2018, 03:51:29 PM »

2006 Election: A Challenger Rises

Gov. Mary Challenger (D-MO)/Sen. Henry Cortes (D-CA) - 358 EVs - 53.45%

Pres. Willy Fitzgerald (R-CO)/Vice Pres. Calinda Mayer (R-GA) - 180 EVs - 45.43%

Mary's Day 2010

Pres. Mary Challenger (D-MO)/Vice Pres. Henry Cortes (D-CA) - 354 EVs - 52.54%

Sen. Mary Joyce (R-ID)/Sen. Joshua Kilmer (R-NJ) - 184 EVs - 47.09%

2014: President Challenger is Shaken

Pres. Mary Challenger(D-MO)/Vice Pres. Henry Cortes (D-CA) - 303 EVs -
 49.76%

Gov. Michael Hoff (R-TN)/Gov. George Garland (R-ME) - 235 EVs - 46.87%

2018: The Disgraced, the Tarnished, and the Fascist

Ret. Gen. Derrick DeMontis (R-PA)/Sen. Victor Deere (R-KY) - 284 EVs - 43.76%

Vice Pres. Henry Cortes (D-CA)/Fmr. Amb. Valina Chau (D-NJ) - 218 EVs -
46.35%

Ret. Lt. Com. Mike Douglas (N-OR)/Mr. Dylan Perrie (N-NC) - 36 EVs - 7.65%

N = Nativist, Populist, and Fascist Coalition Party (NPFC)
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Mary Challenger's average first term popularity (2007 to 2011) = 57%

Mary Challenger's average second term popularity (2011 to 2015) = 54%

Mary Challenger's average third term popularity (2015 to 2019) = 45%
Who is this Mary Challenger?

Popular Dem governor and former Senator from Missouri who defeated an incumbent president in an alt US in 2006. Wins re election twice but leaves office unpopular due to a stagnant economy and extreme polarization.
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« Reply #34 on: February 24, 2018, 09:30:40 PM »


2020 Election

Left Bloc = 354 EVs

- Democrats and Social Dems

- Socialists

- Green and Laborist Union Party

Right Union = 214 EVs

- Republicans

- American Party
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« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2018, 10:25:51 PM »


2024

Sec. of Internal Improvements Takeshi Sakamoto (D-Nebraska) / Vice Pres. James A. Kennedy (D-Texas)
~280 votes,
48.7%

Sen. Nelson Guevara (R-New York) / Sen. Andrew Alegría (R-Florida)
~260 votes, 50.0%

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« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2018, 06:38:10 PM »

If we're talking about election fever dreams, here's one I had in October of 2016. I still don't remember a lot of the eastern chunk of the country, but I do remember Michigan and NH going for Trump while SC went for Hillary (!).

I was also studying the Oregon territory at the time, so in my dream I feel like I recall WA, OR, and ID being one state.

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« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2018, 09:15:11 PM »
« Edited: February 25, 2018, 09:24:57 PM by cookiedamage »

1944 Election


Gov. Farber Milles (D-NY)/Sen. Malcolm Shelley (D-AL) - 277 EVs

Vice Pres. Peter Johnson (R-CA)/Fmr. Sec. Solomon Graves (R-NY) - 254 EVs

1948 Election


Fmr. Sen. Stephen Crawley (R-IL)/Sen. John Preston (R-NJ) - 422 EVs

Pres. Farber Milles (D-NY)/Vice Pres. Malcolm Shelley (D-AL) - 109 EVs

1952 Election


Pres. Stephen Crawley (R-IL)/Vice Pres. John Preston (R-NJ) - 471 EVs

Sen. Frederick Stewart (S-AL)/Fmr. Rep. Marcus Douglas (S-TX) -48 EVs

Sen. William Sauggerty (D-GA)/Fmr. Amb. Lewis Fry (D-VA) - 12 EVs

1956 Election


Vice Pres. John Preston (R-NJ)/Gov. John Carverton (R-CA) - 283 EVs

Fmr. Amb. Marcel London (D-TX)/Fmr. Gov. Jack Russell (D-MA) - 235 EVs

1960 Election


Sen. Anthony Shumaker (D-MO)/Sen. Helen Campbell (D-CA) - 349 EVs

Pres. John Preston (R-NJ)/Vice Pres. John Carverton (R-CA)

1964 Election


Pres. Anthony Shumaker (D-MO)/Vice Pres. Helen Campbell (D-CA) - 322 EVs

Fmr. Vice Pres. John Carverton (R-CA)/Fmr. Sen. Billy Cathcart (R-GA) - 193 EVs

Ret. Gen. James McCleary (I-LA)/Fmr. Sen. Mitch Connelly (I-NC) - 23 EVs

1968 Election


Sen. Jared Putnam (D-TN)/Sen. Julius Stevenson (D-PA) - 295 EVs

Sen. Aston Danville (R-IN)/Gov. Nathan Kilmer (R-KS) - 243 EVs

1972 Election


Sen. Philip Martins (R-VA)/Gov. David Mallery (R-NV) - 372 EVs

Pres. Jared Putnam (D-TN)/Sen. Timothy Scranton (D-WV) - 166 EVs

1976 Election



Pres. Philip Martins (R-VA)/Vice Pres. David Mallery (R-NV) - 474 EVs

Sen. Howard Trenton (D-NE)/Sen. Kaspar Houghton (D-KY) - 64 EVs

1980 Election


Fmr. Vice Pres. Helen Campbell (D-CA)/Gov. George Oliver (D-NJ) - 285 EVs

Vice Pres. David Mallery (R-NV)/Sen. Arthur Jansen (R-MN) - 253 EVs

1984 Election


Pres. Helen Campbell (D-CA)/Vice Pres. George Oliver (D-NJ) - 381 EVs

Sen. Gerard Andersen (R-NC)/Sen. Ted Bentley (R-VT) - 157 EVs

1988 Election


Fmr. Gov. Vincent Hall (R-OH)/Fmr. Sen. Harvey Jung (R-LA) - 318 EVs

Vice Pres. George Oliver (D-NJ)/Rep. Joe Miller (D-NY) - 220 EVs

1992 Election


Pres. Vincent Hall (R-OH)/Vice Pres. Harvey Jung (R-LA) - 328 EVs

Fmr. Sen. Joshua Hartley (D-MD)/Rep. Carl Alison (D-FL) - 210 EVs

1996 Election


Sen. Daniel Marley (D-MI)/Sen. Will Peterson (D-NM) - 309 EVs

Vice Pres. Harvey Jung (R-LA)/Sen. Homer Smith (R-CT) - 229 EVs

2000 Election


Pres. Daniel Marley/Vice Pres. Will Peterson (D-MN) - 340 EVs

Gov. Thadley Renfield (R-GA)/Gov. Mary Coryell (R-ID) - 198 EVs

2004 Election


Fmr. Secy. Stewey Reese (R-VA)/Sen. Sharon Dean (R-CO) - 295 EVs

Vice Pres. William Peterson (D-MN)/Sen. Phil Wyatt (D-WV) - 243 EVs

2008 Election


Sen. Albio Torres (D-NY)/Fmr. Sec. Karen Crow (D-MO) - 367 EVs

Pres. Stewey Reese (R-VA)/Vice Pres. Sharon Dean (R-CO) - 171 EVs

2012 Election


Pres. Albio Torres (D-NY)/Vice Pres. Karen Crow (D-MO) - 358 EVs

Fmr. Sen. Tim Stockerman (R-IL)/Sen. Julia Garamendi (R-CA) - 180 EVs

2016 Election


Sen. Alice Campbell-Shafir (D-CA)/Sen. Andrew Wentell (D-VA) - 342 EVs

Sen. Eileen Sherman (R-AR)/Gov. Herb Johnson (R-MT) - 196 EVs

Presidents
Farber Milles (1945 – 1949)
Stephen Crawley (1949 – 1957)
John Preston (1957 – 1961)
Anthony Shumaker (1961 – 1969)
Jared Putnam (1969 – 1973)
Philip Martins (1973 – 1981)
Helen Campbell (1981 – 1989)
Vincent Hall (1989 – 1997)
Daniel Marley (1997 – 2005)
Stewey Reese (2005 – 2009)
Albio Torres (2009 – 2017)
Alice Campbell-Shafir (2017 - )
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« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2018, 01:31:42 AM »


Sen. Moshe Coleman (D-VA)/Gov. Jean Cole (D-AZ) - 439 EVs - 51.08%

Fmr. Gov. Gary Ritter (A-PA)/Fmr. Rep. Melissa Guerra (A-SC) - 79 EVs - 35.58%

Gov. Stella MacKildare (R-VT)/Sen. Joe Scranton (R-IN) - 20 EVs - 12.34%
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« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2018, 05:06:08 PM »


Labor Party under Gov. Neville Harris (L-CA) - 297

Republican Party under Pres. Marcel McAnvil (R-NH) - 241


Labor Party under Pres. Neville Harris (L-CA) - 358

Republican Party under Sen. Lissette Johnson (R-AZ) - 180


Republican Party under Gov. Julie Barbeiro (R-NJ) - 325

Labor Party under Vice Pres. Cara Fleischer (L-WV) - 205

Conservative Labor Party under Sen. Mike Land (C-NH) - 8


Republican Party under Pres. Julie Barbeiro (R-NJ) - 276

Labor Party under Fmr. Sen. Joshua Farber (L-IL) - 233

Conservative Labor Party under Rep. Terry Jewel (C-AL) - 29


Labor Party under Sen. Maxine Simpson (L-MI) - 319

Republican Party under Fmr. Vice Pres. Jack Corrina (R-NC) - 168

Conservative Workers Party under Fmr. Sen. James Gutierrez (C-WV) - 51
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« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2018, 12:22:36 AM »

Inspired by bagelman


Pink = lean dem

Red = likely dem

Maroon = safe dem

Sky blue = lean gop

Blue = likely gop

Navy = safe gop


Above: no toss-ups


Above: demslide


Above: gopslide
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« Reply #41 on: March 24, 2018, 09:30:22 PM »


Gov. Allen Hough (D-IA)/Sen. Darren Kilmer (D-NV) - 466 EVs - 51.36%

Sen. Phil Andersen (R-OR)/Rep. Selene Francesco (R-KY) - 59 EVs - 34.20%

Mr. John Wiel (I-NJ)/Mr. Alexander Coop (I-MT) - 13 EVs - 14.44%
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« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2018, 10:17:17 PM »


Partisan ranking of States

Solid Labor

Likely Labor

Lean Labor

Toss-Up

Lean Liberal

Likely Liberal

Solid Liberal


No Toss-Ups
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« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2018, 12:42:22 AM »


Harris vs. Sanders Primary
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« Reply #44 on: April 03, 2018, 07:25:37 PM »


Dem: Serene Universal Energy (OH)/Kamala Harris (CA)

Rep: Baphomet (FL)/Pat Toomey (PA)
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« Reply #45 on: April 03, 2018, 08:55:47 PM »

2020: Trump Impeached in 2019, Pence refuses to Run


Gov. John Kasich (R-OH)/Fmr. Gov. Brian Sandoval (R-NV) - 283 EVs - 31.54%

Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D-NY)/Sen. Katie McGinty (D-PA) - 174 EVs - 26.54%

Sen. Bernie Sanders (Labor-VT)/Sen. Kamala Harris (L-CA) - 62 EVs - 27.65%

Fmr. Pres. Donald Trump (Nationalist-NY)/Sen. Ted Cruz (N-TX) - 19 EVs - 14.02%

2024


Sen. Kamala Harris (Democratic Labor-CA)/Sen. Tammy Baldwin (DL-WI) - 429 EVs - 53.43%

Fmr. Vice Pres. Mike Pence (N-IN)/Fmr. Gov. Mike Huckabee (N-AR) - 77 EVs - 32.03%

Pres. John Kasich (R-OH)/Vice Pres. Brian Sandoval (R-NV) - 31 EVs - 14.30%
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« Reply #46 on: April 03, 2018, 09:36:12 PM »


McGovern faces a less humiliating loss.
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« Reply #47 on: April 08, 2018, 09:29:38 PM »
« Edited: April 08, 2018, 09:32:59 PM by cookiedamage »


Carla Simpson (IN)/John Mallard (WV) - 321 EVs

Harry Johnston (NC)/Huey McVille (NJ) - 161 EVs

Steph Chen (NV)/Joanna Allison (AZ) - 56 EVs

The Parties

Whigs represent classical liberals, industrialists, burgeoning capitalists, and economic modernizers. They originate from the upper middle classes and merchant castes and find their strongest support in cities and suburbs. They believe a free market economy boosts national strength and social unity and see feudalism as ancient and inefficient.

Feudalists represent conservatives, aristocracy, landed gentry, and the wealthy old money of society. They believe in serfdom and strict class systems. They believe a strict caste-based way of life leads to social harmony and godliness. Very religious and socially conservative. They believe in a manorial economy and find their biggest support in the plantation south.

Pastoralists represent freemen, independent farmers, herders, steppe people, and Rocky mountain people. They believe in individualism and self-sufficiency and see feudalism and capitalism as predatory economic models that feast upon the toils of working people and serfs. Strongest in the mountain west.

Closest states

Virginia: 44.56% vs. 44.06%

Missouri: 42.92% vs. 42.00%

Arizona: 40.32% vs. 39.31%
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« Reply #48 on: April 09, 2018, 09:59:11 PM »

2020: Trump doesn't seek reelection, opts to run Republican grassroots via New York and Mar-a-lago, Fla., Ryan-Pence wins election


Former House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI)/Vice President Mike Pence (R-IN)-333 EV/50.3%
Senator Kamala Harris (D-CA)/Montana Governor Steve Bullock (D-MT)-205 EV/48.5%

Harris/Bullock is a great ticket that is much more powerful than Ryan/Pence. Trump's base is not a fan of Ryan's and I don't see Ryan having an easy time with Michigan, Minnesota, or Pennsylvania.
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« Reply #49 on: April 11, 2018, 11:29:09 PM »

2016


Gov. Dan Farber (R-NH)/Sen. Melissa Sumner (R-ND) - 532 EVs - 43%

Vice Pres. Max Carter (D-TX)/Fmr. Sen. Maria Bosch (D-NY) - 3 EVs - 34%

Sen. Matt Vanderson (Democratic Labor-IL)/Sen. John Maher (DL-NV) - 3 EVs - 23%

2020


Sen. Stella Connally (D-NY)/Fmr. Sec. Josh Marquez (D-NC) - 533 EVs - 49%

Ret. Gen. Tom Easton (American-LA)/Ms. Amy DiRomeo (A-CT) - 5 EVs - 26%

Pres. Dan Farber (R-NH)/Vice Pres. Melissa Sumner (R-ND) - 0 EVs - 25%

2024 Election


Pres. Stella Connally (D-NY)/Vice Pres. Josh Marquez (D-NC) - 477 EVs - 48%

Mr. Gerry Douglas (A-KY)/Mr. Nate Goussier (A-WV) - 60 EVs - 35%

Fmr. Sen. Alice McMurrow (R-NE)/Fmr. Sec. John Goodwin - 1 EV - 17%

2028


Vice Pres. Josh Marquez (D-NC)/Sen. Toni Sheridan (D-NM) - 399 EVs - 52%

Sen. Patrick Hill (A-TX)/Sen. Trish Stevensen (A-MI) - 139 EVs - 43%

Fmr. Gov. Harrison Roland (R-OR)/Rep. Cindy Morris (R-FL) - 0 EVs - 5%
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