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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« on: April 22, 2014, 12:23:23 AM »

The pollsters asked the question incorrectly; they made the statement, "The universe began 13.8 billion years ago with a big bang."  Well, that's (1) almost certainly not true, and (2) more importantly not what the big bang theory purports to explain.  The big bang theory is an explanation of the expansion of the development and expansion of the universe, not the creation of the universe.  According to the big bang theory, the universe existed as a singularity before the big bang actually happened, and the big bang theory does not address how it came into existence.
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2014, 12:47:02 AM »

The pollsters asked the question incorrectly; they made the statement, "The universe began 13.8 billion years ago with a big bang."  Well, that's (1) almost certainly not true, and (2) more importantly not what the big bang theory purports to explain.  The big bang theory is an explanation of the expansion of the development and expansion of the universe, not the creation of the universe.  According to the big bang theory, the universe existed as a singularity before the big bang actually happened, and the big bang theory does not address how it came into existence.

Not exactly.  The instant of the Big Bang is the beginning of time.  There is no "before".  As I recently saw someone else describe it, talking about "before the Big Bang" is like talking about something being north of the North Pole.  The concept is incoherent.

In any case, I'm reasonably confident that there was a Big Bang, but to say that it was exactly 13.8 billion years ago simply because of the Planck results last year…..that's still a sketchy proposition.  Heck, if some of the more exotic theories about the inhomogeneity of large scale structure are correct, then the age of the universe could vary by as much as billions of years depending on whether you make the measurement in a supercluster or a void.


There would have been no time relevant to the universe, because at that point, time would be immeasurable pursuant to the Penrose–Hawking singularity theorem; however, there is nothing in current science that precludes the possibility of multiple universes or anything outside of the singularity.  And this begins to cross into a point of physics that I really don't understand, but the point is that the big bang theory does not explain when (or how) the universe began; it can only explain its development.
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2014, 11:56:08 AM »

47% of Americans should not be allowed to have children, it seems.

In general, childhood vaccines are safe and effective, but there are enough exceptions for people to be legitimately only somewhat confident.  Efficacies for many vaccines are nowhere near 100%, and there are risks to all vaccines (some more than others).  Simply because only 53% of people are extremely/very confident that childhood vaccines are safe and effective doesn't mean that only 53% of people are having their kids vaccinated.  There's nothing wrong with being skeptical of claims made by doctors and pharmaceutical companies.
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2014, 12:01:18 PM »

My favorite part is the drug resistant bacteria thing. So, Americans believe that bacteria are evolving, but don't believe in evolution

There's a difference between microevolution and macroevolution, and the question that actually used the word "evolution" was implicitly asking about macroevolution.
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