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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« on: April 11, 2013, 01:20:17 PM »

A proper balanced budget amendment was never presented to The People to vote on.

It was never able to pass the Assembly.  Any amendments close to it were shot down.  If such a proposal was to happen, it would've had to have been introduced by the Governor or the people.  But, yes, I absolutely 100% support a true balanced budget amendment over anything we've passed so far.
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2013, 01:22:12 PM »

Your budget isn't really a "balanced budget" amendment either though.  All it takes is 2/3 majority, and the expenditures could be 9,999% times the revenue raised.  That's not a balanced budget amendment.
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2013, 02:30:13 PM »

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=166974.0

We couldn't even get it at simply 110%.  Many wanted at least 125%.  There's no way 100% would have passed.

But 100% with a 2/3 ability to override that is not a balanced budget amendment.  At the point that you can override it, what difference does it make if it's 100%, 110%, or 125%?
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2013, 12:16:14 AM »

Yet we've already determined that passing an unbalanced budget would have little to no effect on elections.
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2013, 02:28:11 AM »

And I've already explained multiple times that voters will see a huge difference between "passing a budget-deficit" and "declaring a fake emergency".

Proof?
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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E: 4.65, S: -2.78

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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2013, 02:28:55 PM »

And I've already explained multiple times that voters will see a huge difference between "passing a budget-deficit" and "declaring a fake emergency".

Proof?

We don't have proof in either direction, besides myself. I'll put a poll up.

Of course we do... at least I do.  I had a poll.
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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E: 4.65, S: -2.78

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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2013, 03:50:31 AM »

And I've already explained multiple times that voters will see a huge difference between "passing a budget-deficit" and "declaring a fake emergency".

Proof?

We don't have proof in either direction, besides myself. I'll put a poll up.

Of course we do... at least I do.  I had a poll.

Your poll proved that voters saw no difference between the two? Roll Eyes

Calm down... When you said "in either direction", I thought you were referring to the arguments made by each of us with "Yet we've already determined that passing an unbalanced budget would have little to no effect on elections" being one direction and "And I've already explained multiple times that voters will see a huge difference between "passing a budget-deficit" and "declaring a fake emergency"." being the other.
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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E: 4.65, S: -2.78

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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2013, 12:53:25 AM »

A Bill to Commemorate Atlasia's Greatest Citizen · failed · Would have commemorated John Engle, Eternal Governor of All Atlasia's States and Regions (duh).
freedom fighters: 豚FLY/a Person · Gass3268
anti-People scumbags: Oldiesfreak1854 · shua · Inks.LWC


Hey, man... just because you apparently hate lesbians doesn't mean I have to go along with it.
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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E: 4.65, S: -2.78

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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2013, 01:25:46 AM »

What does "common-sense game reform" entail?

Well, "common-sense" generally means something close to "practical". I support efforts at game reform that would (in my opinion) practically improve the game.

Does trying to run a region when you're not a citizen of that region count as "common-sense" and "practical"?
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
Inks.LWC
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Political Matrix
E: 4.65, S: -2.78

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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2013, 05:49:42 PM »

What does "common-sense game reform" entail?

Well, "common-sense" generally means something close to "practical". I support efforts at game reform that would (in my opinion) practically improve the game.

Does trying to run a region when you're not a citizen of that region count as "common-sense" and "practical"?
What are you talking about, exactly?
I would also be curious to know what the birthday boy is talking about.

When Tyrannical Tom over here decided that he could hold elections in the Pacific to reinstate a new government.
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