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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« on: November 12, 2012, 03:10:47 PM »

I heartily endorse you, and I hope we can serve another term together!
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2013, 11:52:32 PM »

Next weekend there will be a vote on the Mideast Budget Amendment. The text of this amendment reads:

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This version is considerably worse then the prior that was voted down by the region as there is no mechanism that will allow the budget to go over the $50 billion in cases of emergency such as a recession. Due to this weakness in the amendment, I will be voting against it and I will be advocating for its defeat. 
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Let's make something clear - there was no such provision in the previous amendment.
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2013, 09:12:16 PM »

Why are we voting against the Amendment?  We gave you guys everything you wanted.  We completely eliminated constraints on a single session's limits, capping it at the SAME cap we had before.  This is getting just absolutely ridiculous.
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2013, 09:22:40 PM »

So why are you raising these complaints AFTER two bills have already been passed.  Overriding the total cap was never an issue.  To allow a $60 billion deficit in one session would be a 20% deficit.  It's absolutely unnecessary.
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2013, 10:08:54 PM »

A 20% debt is ridiculous for this game.  It allows an Assembly to be absolutely lazy.
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2013, 02:36:39 AM »

I believe I've stood on the side lines long enough, but this issue is getting out of hand. The debt ceiling thing that Gass and Taleyrand are pushing in opposition of this bill is currently unnecessary. The Assembly could hold a simple vote to raise the cap. It's that easy. 20% Debt is already ridiculous, it shouldn't get that high in the first place.

How can the Assembly hold a simple vote if the amount is mandated in the Constitution?  Also, a debt that is 20% of annual revenue is not all that large relatively speaking. 

It is when you're talking a game where there are virtually no consequences for passing an unbalanced budget.
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2013, 03:39:37 AM »

I believe I've stood on the side lines long enough, but this issue is getting out of hand. The debt ceiling thing that Gass and Taleyrand are pushing in opposition of this bill is currently unnecessary. The Assembly could hold a simple vote to raise the cap. It's that easy. 20% Debt is already ridiculous, it shouldn't get that high in the first place.

How can the Assembly hold a simple vote if the amount is mandated in the Constitution?  Also, a debt that is 20% of annual revenue is not all that large relatively speaking. 

It is when you're talking a game where there are virtually no consequences for passing an unbalanced budget.

and yet the Mideast Assembly spent several months working to make it balanced, did it not?  so there's some sort of pressure to do it.

Because we planned on passing a balanced budget amendment!
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2013, 10:37:33 AM »

But NOBODY ever raised this issue during debate.... debate of either bill.  We've been looking at this language for months.  How did it take until ratification was about to begin for you guys to decide you didn't like it?
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2013, 11:12:34 AM »

I believe I've stood on the side lines long enough, but this issue is getting out of hand. The debt ceiling thing that Gass and Taleyrand are pushing in opposition of this bill is currently unnecessary. The Assembly could hold a simple vote to raise the cap. It's that easy. 20% Debt is already ridiculous, it shouldn't get that high in the first place.

How can the Assembly hold a simple vote if the amount is mandated in the Constitution?  Also, a debt that is 20% of annual revenue is not all that large relatively speaking. 

It is when you're talking a game where there are virtually no consequences for passing an unbalanced budget.

What are the consequences that this amendment adds?



It makes it so the Assembly cannot pass an extremely unbalanced budget.
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2013, 02:52:10 PM »

I believe I've stood on the side lines long enough, but this issue is getting out of hand. The debt ceiling thing that Gass and Taleyrand are pushing in opposition of this bill is currently unnecessary. The Assembly could hold a simple vote to raise the cap. It's that easy. 20% Debt is already ridiculous, it shouldn't get that high in the first place.

How can the Assembly hold a simple vote if the amount is mandated in the Constitution?  Also, a debt that is 20% of annual revenue is not all that large relatively speaking. 

It is when you're talking a game where there are virtually no consequences for passing an unbalanced budget.

and yet the Mideast Assembly spent several months working to make it balanced, did it not?  so there's some sort of pressure to do it.

Because we planned on passing a balanced budget amendment!

really?  how long has this been in the works?

Since we were talking about proposing a budget.  It'd be pointless to have an unbalanced budget in this game.  Now, we can say small deficits can be allowed, but I think the understanding from everyone who was around when we first started discussing a budget was that it would be balanced or close to balanced.
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2013, 03:31:46 PM »

I won't vote for anything without a cap. That's stupid. That's essentially what we were doing before... Just now it's one more bill to pass.
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