MN and CO PrimR- PPP: Santorum leading by 2 in MN, Romney by 14 in CO in 1st day (user search)
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« on: February 05, 2012, 12:15:14 PM »

How is a 10% difference a 4-way tie?
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2012, 12:19:31 PM »


Now, now, Inks. Let's remember some very important similar lessons...

Romney by 8 in Iowa: VICTORY FOR MITT!

Santorum by 34 in Iowa: Let's call this a draw. Might as well flip a coin.

Who they heck were you watching who said, "VICTORY FOR MITT!"?  Most everybody I watched called it a draw (other than the campaigns, and do you really expect campaigns to not build up a win?)
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2012, 12:23:31 PM »


Now, now, Inks. Let's remember some very important similar lessons...

Romney by 8 in Iowa: VICTORY FOR MITT!

Santorum by 34 in Iowa: Let's call this a draw. Might as well flip a coin.

Who they heck were you watching who said, "VICTORY FOR MITT!"?  Most everybody I watched called it a draw (other than the campaigns, and do you really expect campaigns to not build up a win?)

Idiots here and...oh, you know...the Iowa GOP.

The Iowa GOP was that enthusiastic?  And are you really saying you think Santorum and Paul are virtually tied?
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2012, 12:40:02 PM »

Database entries:

CO: https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2012R/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=820120204108

MN: https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2012R/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=2720120204108
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2012, 12:59:59 PM »

The Iowa GOP was that enthusiastic?  And are you really saying you think Santorum and Paul are virtually tied?

Inks, what the hell are you saying? How am I saying Santorum and Paul are virtually tied? I'm saying when Santorum is leading, it's downplayed (as is being done here) and his firebreathing haters want to call it a tie.

Julio is a firebreathing Santorum hater now?  That's a little much, don't you think?
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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2012, 01:57:44 PM »

Here's why it's a 4 way tie:

2008 Minnesota poll (University of Minnesota, only one I could find, released 5 days before):
McCain 41%
Huckabee 22%
Romney 17%
Paul 5%

Results:
Romney 41% (+24)
McCain 22% (-19)
Huckabee 20% (-2)
Paul 15% (+10)

Obviously we can't rely on Romney's and Paul's numbers so (like in Nevada), Gingrich's support is like McCain's support (which doesn't bode well for him), and Santorum's is like Huckabee's ( so he's definitely in with a shot). From this poll I can see Rick, Paul or Mitt winning, but it's really a 4-way race because of that big Gingrich poll a few weeks back. I think the most likely outcome is a sizeable win by Mitt.

Using that poll is hardly a good analogy.  That was a poll from a relatively obscure company with a sample of 317 registered (not likely) voters and a margin of error of 6%.
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