1st DEM Debate Thread: June 26 & 27, Miami, MSNBC & NBC & Telemundo (9-11pm)

[Tender Branson]

The Democratic National Committee has approved up to 12 debates with the first taking placing over two consecutive nights in June. Six debates are scheduled this year and six more set for 2020.

The first debate, sponsored by NBC News, MSNBC, and Telemundo, will take place on June 26 and 27 from 9 p.m. to 11 p.m. ET at the Adrienne Arsht Center in Miami, Florida. The field will be split into two with 10 candidates debating each night. The DNC has said the lineups for each debate will be chosen at random.

Details on the moderators will be announced at a later date. No information has been revealed by the DNC on the question format.

The debate will also stream online free on this website, NBCNews.com, MSNBC.com, the NBC News mobile app and OTT apps, in addition to Telemundo’s digital platforms.

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/2020-Democratic-Presidential-Primary-Debates-510618391.html

Democratic candidates may qualify for the first and second debate by meeting one of the two following sets of criteria:

Criteria 1- Polling Method: Participants must register 1% or more support in three polls (which may be national polls, or polls in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and/or Nevada) publicly released between Jan. 1, 2019, and 14 days prior to the date of the debate. Qualifying polls will be limited to those sponsored by one or more of the following organizations/institutions: Associated Press, ABC News, CBS News, CNN, Des Moines Register, Fox News, Las Vegas Review Journal, Monmouth University, NBC News, New York Times, National Public Radio (NPR), Quinnipiac University, Reuters, University of New Hampshire, Wall Street Journal, USA Today, Washington Post, Winthrop University. Any candidate’s three qualifying polls must be conducted by different organizations, or if by the same organization, must be in different geographical areas.

Criteria 2 - Grassroots Fundraising Method: Candidates may qualify for the debate by demonstrating that the campaign has received donations from at least (1) 65,000 unique donors; and (2) a minimum of 200 unique donors per state in at least 20 U.S. states.  

If more than 20 candidates qualify, here is how a tiebreaker would work, according to NBC News. Candidates who meet both the polling and fundraising criteria would get preference. If that still doesn't winnow the field, then preference goes to candidates with the highest polling average.    

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_debates_and_forums

[Tender Branson]

Wasn't the DNC supposed to announce the qualified candidates today ?

[Tender Branson]

Thought: if Warren throws a few bombs in the first debate, will that define the second debate night and force the other candidates to respond?

I’m pretty sure that if Warren becomes a domestic terrorist and kills or injures the Mayor of NYC, Beto, Tulsi etc. on stage, the other candidates will respond ...

[Tender Branson]

Thought: if Warren throws a few bombs in the first debate, will that define the second debate night and force the other candidates to respond?

I’m pretty sure that if Warren becomes a domestic terrorist and kills or injures the Mayor of NYC, Beto, Tulsi etc. on stage, the other candidates will respond ...

FOX in 2 mins...

BREAKING NEWS! This is FOX News. We're receiving unconfirmed reports at this hour that Elizabeth Warren, the Senator from Massachusetts & Democratic presidential candidate, is currently under federal investigation for conspiracy to commit an act of domestic terrorism at the upcoming Democratic presidential debate in Miami later this month.

#LockHerUp!
#PocahontasForPrison2020

[Tender Branson]

[Tender Branson]

Will CNBC Europe show the debates live on Thursday and Friday ?

I only have CNN (they are probably not showing it) and CNBC Europe on my cable TV ...

[Tender Branson]

Look like Trump will live-comment the debates on Twitter tonight and tomorrow ...

[Tender Branson]

It's 5am and I set my clock to get up for the last 20 minutes or so.

Who's winning so far ?

[Tender Branson]

Ready for debate night #2 (I have now figured out how to stream NBC on my TV ...):

[Tender Branson]

Did even the moderate candidates raise there hand on the question of giving free health care to illegals? WHY?! That gives Trump LIFE in this race.... life he doesn’t need

Give me a freaking break. Republicans are free to run as far to the right as they want but Democrats can't say we should give free healthcare to undocumented people, which is something that almost every other country already does? people like you are part of the problem.

Do they?

lol other countries do not give free healthcare to illegal immigrants

That certainly depends on each country ...

I can say that Austria for example does provide health care to all people - (illegal) immigrants or not.

That is because 99.9% of people here are already covered by health insurance and if someone files for asylum, that person will also get health care right away. No matter if that person came legally (due to war etc. in their home countries) or illegally (by posing as teenagers or for economic reasons). For people who have fallen out of the "net" somehow, doctors and hospitals still provide free care if there's a medical issue.

[Tender Branson]

In Norway, only private health insurance exist, cause public hospitals are completely free for everyone. The only thing you have to pay for her, is cosmetic surgery, which usually is undertaken in private hospitals anyway. However, if there is a medical reason for the cosmetic surgery - like extreme obesity for instance - then even that is free.

That is basically the same situation as in Austria. We have a top-tier single-payer system, which is supplemented by a private health insurance system. Under the single-payer system, the basic, necessary medical things are covered and even such things as teeth and certain cosmetic surgeries if medically necessary (some of which you need pre-payment for, but you'll get 50% or so re-imbursed later on). By supplemental private insurance, all of this is covered and you get much quicker specialist appointments. Whereas you wait ca. a week or so for regular appointments with a specialist, you can get an appointment the same or next day for a specialist in the area accepting private insurance.

[Tender Branson]

Here is a chart of the best healthcare systems in Europe in 2018 with matrix scores:

https://healthpowerhouse.com/media/EHCI-2018/EHCI-2018-index-matrix-A3-sheet.pdf

Switzerland wins, followed by the Netherlands and Norway. Austria is 9th, out of 35 countries.

The "thumbs down" for Austria include "high abortion rates" (which is an unfounded, unscientific measure really. Austria does not collect abortion data, so the numbers circulating in the media are from anti-abortion nuts, who constantly estimate abortions here in the 40.000 range, when in fact neighbouring Germany and Switzerland only have a quarter of that rate. There is no sign that abortions in Austria are significantly higher than in the neighbouring countries.)