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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,199
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« on: September 12, 2015, 07:28:57 AM »

Now a prosperous Western Europe state, with one of the best economic records in the EU.

Not anymore. With Faymann and his SPÖVP cronies continuously wrecking the country, we now have record-high debt, record unemployment and are one of 3 EU countries with a stagnating economy (Cyprus and Italy are the others).

Rather, Faymann and Co. are focusing on how to best fit 100.000s of illegals into our society (who have never paid anything into the system), while ignoring the will and needs of the hard-working Austrians like me (who have transformed into the donkeys of the nation to be exploited).
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,199
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2015, 07:54:19 AM »

Now a prosperous Western Europe state, with one of the best economic records in the EU.

Not anymore. With Faymann and his SPÖVP cronies continuously wrecking the country, we now have record-high debt, record unemployment and are one of 3 EU countries with a stagnating economy (Cyprus and Italy are the others).

Rather, Faymann and Co. are focusing on how to best fit 100.000s of illegals into our society (who have never paid anything into the system), while ignoring the will and needs of the hard-working Austrians like me (who have transformed into the donkeys of the nation to be exploited).

Lol.

I'm crying for pity. You're obviously so far worse off than all those "100.000s of illegals" (sidenote - of all the bs you have spewed so far when it comes to that, this has to be one of the worst). Argh, we truly need a new strong man, a Strache, to fix our so horrible problems!

Not yet, but eventually we all will be - if Faymann and Co. are left in power to continue with their disastrous policies. And that future may not take long to become reality ...
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,199
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2015, 08:03:41 AM »

Now a prosperous Western Europe state, with one of the best economic records in the EU.

Not anymore. With Faymann and his SPÖVP cronies continuously wrecking the country, we now have record-high debt, record unemployment and are one of 3 EU countries with a stagnating economy (Cyprus and Italy are the others).

Rather, Faymann and Co. are focusing on how to best fit 100.000s of illegals into our society (who have never paid anything into the system), while ignoring the will and needs of the hard-working Austrians like me (who have transformed into the donkeys of the nation to be exploited).

Lol.

I'm crying for pity. You're obviously so far worse off than all those "100.000s of illegals" (sidenote - of all the bs you have spewed so far when it comes to that, this has to be one of the worst). Argh, we truly need a new strong man, a Strache, to fix our so horrible problems!

Not yet, but eventually we all will be - if Faymann and Co. are left in power to continue with their disastrous policies. And that future may not take long to become reality ...

The sad thing is that maybe you even believe the Scheiße you post...

You naive left-left-wingers call it "sh*t", I call it the truth ... and judging by all the hostile reactions I got over the last weeks and months, I probably hit a nerve with you naives as the truth sometimes hurts. But you will only realize that you were wrong if some of these ISIS a**holes that are among the illegals blows something up somewhere in Europe.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,199
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2015, 08:10:53 AM »

Now a prosperous Western Europe state, with one of the best economic records in the EU.

Not anymore. With Faymann and his SPÖVP cronies continuously wrecking the country, we now have record-high debt, record unemployment and are one of 3 EU countries with a stagnating economy (Cyprus and Italy are the others).

Rather, Faymann and Co. are focusing on how to best fit 100.000s of illegals into our society (who have never paid anything into the system), while ignoring the will and needs of the hard-working Austrians like me (who have transformed into the donkeys of the nation to be exploited).

Lol.

I'm crying for pity. You're obviously so far worse off than all those "100.000s of illegals" (sidenote - of all the bs you have spewed so far when it comes to that, this has to be one of the worst). Argh, we truly need a new strong man, a Strache, to fix our so horrible problems!

Not yet, but eventually we all will be - if Faymann and Co. are left in power to continue with their disastrous policies. And that future may not take long to become reality ...

The sad thing is that maybe you even believe the Scheiße you post...

You naive left-left-wingers call it "sh*t", I call it the truth ... and judging by all the hostile reactions I got over the last weeks and months, I probably hit a nerve with you naives as the truth sometimes hurts. But you will only realize that you were wrong if some of these ISIS a**holes that are among the illegals blows something up somewhere in Europe.



Oh yeah, here comes the Pavlovian reflex-like picture of Strache with a cross in his hand. These scare tactics by the Left is getting annoying. Besides, where did I ever post anything about "religion" ? I'm concerned about the ISIS wankers that are among the illegals, not about Islam itself.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,199
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2015, 08:19:22 AM »


Yeah, maybe Austria should deploy Krampus to the border as some kind of scarecrow.

The migrants would probably never set foot into Austria again ...
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,199
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2015, 08:31:35 AM »

Now a prosperous Western Europe state, with one of the best economic records in the EU.
record unemployment
5.8%, as of July 2015. I think that fits into the description of a prosperous Western European state with one of the best economic records in the EU.

Though I obviously agree with you when it comes to SPÖVP in general and the migration crisis specifically, Austria's economic performance has been just fine.

Since Faymann became Chancellor, the number of registered unemployed and those hidden in training courses (who do not count as "unemployed", but who receive the unemployment money as well) has risen from 200.000 to almost 400.000 now.

We all know that the Eurostat UE numbers are highly skewed, because it includes as "employed" anyone who works just 1 hour (!) each week, therefore inflating the labour force.

The number of actual registered unemployed at the AMS (Labour Agency) is a much better indicator than the skewed telephone survey from EUROSTAT, because these people actually are registered and therefore receive the money.

On the GDP numbers:

"Austria's economic performance has been just fine"

Not since Faymann took over: For the past years, we only managed growth rates of 0.2%-0.5%, while at the same time the population (due to mass immigration) has grown by 0.5-1% each year. Before Faymann took over, our GDP growth rates were constantly above the EU average, now it's way below that ... but that's unsurprising considering Faymann and Co. invests 99% of their time in helping the illegals instead of the citizens who elected them.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,199
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2015, 08:48:34 AM »

Cranberry, I'm a Conserva-Green and not a naive-lef-leftist Green like you and how you expect all of them to be (in your left-fascist Green world view). Deal with it. Who cares if I mirror Strache on 2 topics out of 100s (immigration and fiscal issues) ? We had that debate before and came to no common Nenner, so no need to warm it all up again.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,199
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2015, 01:04:19 PM »

  A couple thoughts.  A conserva-green could be  a supporter of the Ecological Democrats in Germany perhaps?  IIRC they once got 3% of the vote in a Bavarian parliamentary election.  
   Concerning Austria, its a shame that it wasn't allowed to keep the northern half of the South Tyrol and at least part of the Sudetenland after world war one.  Merging the southern and western part of the Sudetenland would have created a really funky border, but would have been the just decision, clearly, in terms of ethnic self determination.
    Some of my best memories of trips to Europe are from Austria.  A week spent on the Worthersee when I was 15, visiting the Salzburg area and then Vienna when I was a college student.
I hope to visit in the next few years as well.

Why on earth would anyone split South Tyrol in half? The whole of South Tyrol was at the time, and is still today safe for Bozen, ethnically homogenous German Tyrolean.

You do realize South Tyrol includes the (overwhelmingly Italian) Trentino?

When Austrians speak of South Tyrol, nobody includes Trentino.

South Tyrol is only the nothern part of Trentino-Alto-Adige.

If South Tyrol is somehow merged with Austria (lol), then it should be cut off just a few miles north of Bozen - with Bozen and suburbs being added to Trentino.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,199
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84

« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2015, 01:42:05 PM »

  Right, I was referring to Austria keeping what would roughly match the "language frontier" at the time.  Having the Sudetenland joining the new Austria would be the trickier part, basically adding  a  C shaped chunk of territory onto the top of the new republic.

Why would the current "Sudetenland" even want to join Austria ? That makes no sense. It's as if you ask Texas to join Mexico. The current area of the Sudetenland is virtually 100% Czech, unlike South Tyrol - which still shares a lot with North Tyrol and Austria, incl. roughly the same dialect and its parties. But still, South Tyrol should not join Austria - but rather become independent. Staying with Italy is "uncool" because they are a net payer, sending the most money to Rome and the poor South. Joining Austria would be roughly the same, being one of the richest regions in Austria that Faymann and Co. would just milk ...
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