Biden VP news megathread (pg 286 - been selected, announcement could be today)

[Not Me, Us]

I would really like to see Warren or Pressley. I plan on voting for Biden, but the pill would be much easier to swallow if there was a progressive on the ticket, and I know many people IRL who feel the same.

[Not Me, Us]

Klobuchar would be a poor pick. She's similar to Kaine in that she is from the same faction as the nominee and is from a state the nominee is already likely to win. I really don't believe Biden would be more likely to win midwestern states with her on the ticket. Warren, Harris, Lujan Grisham, and Duckworth would all be far better choices.

[Not Me, Us]

If Biden picks Warren Democrats are basically throwing the 2024 Election away.

There is ZERO Chance Warren would win a POTUS Race against the likes of Haley, Rubio, Pence, DeSantis, Scott, Hawley with her Progressive Agenda & Views.

Warren would even lose to Mike Pence.

Can you let me know what the weather will be like on August 12th 2022?

A Progressive Democrat like Warren, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders, etc. will never ever win the Democratic Nomination and if they do by some accident they would lose to Republicans in a massive landslide.

Republicans had the same thoughts like the liberal left wing of the Democratic Party has right now in 2008 and 2012 by trying a Mike Huckabee or Rick Santorum. It did not work and it will not work.

Get used to it! Both Parties Nominees will always be in some form a Moderate.

Trump is not a moderate. Pence is not a moderate. Haley, Rubio, DeSantis, Scott, and Hawley are not moderates. The GOP will not nominate a moderate for the foreseeable future.

[Not Me, Us]

No way in hell Klobuchar gets nominated now.

I thought it was going to be Klobachour. Not anymore, she’s done.

It’s now all Harris. I can’t stand that woman, terrible veep....

Are people just blindly repeating the conclusions of that absolute garbage story about Klobuchar being tied to the cop?

Politics are all about optics, and the optics for her are bad right now between her lukewarm reception among African-Americans, and whatever role, real or imagined, people think she had in letting bad cops off the hook in MN. She won't be the VP.

Oh god, it's 2016 again.  "Yes it's a lie but the truth doesn't matter, optics matter."

It's a f***ing lie and you people are blindly believing it and repeating it.

Even if it isn't true, Klobuchar is still a terrible pick. She motivates nobody.She doesn't help turn out progressives, African-Americans, or Hispanics, which are all crucial parts of the Democratic coalition. Progressives and Hispanics are especially important given Biden's weakness with them. Klobuchar is also from a state Biden is almost certainly going to win and doesn't help in other swing states. She's one fo the worst choices Biden could make.

[Not Me, Us]

Duckworth would be the best choice. Warren would be my favorite, but Duckworth essentially has no downsides. She's smart, experienced, a veteran, a POC, inoffensive, disabled, and is more progressive than Biden, but not so much as to turn off the moderates Biden is trying to court. Not my first choice, but she is pretty much the perfect running mate.

[Not Me, Us]

Bernie bros are going to Bernie Bro.

https://twitter.com/IsaacDovere/status/1286462426142187525

This is hilarious. The arrogance lmao

Ah yes. Because if there's one thing Harris supporters aren't, it's arrogant.

[Not Me, Us]

If you don't think it will be Kamala, it really is a pick em'. I'd argue Duckworth, Whitmer could be the best buys if you think he wants someone with statewide experience.

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/5883/Who-will-win-the-2020-Democratic-vice-presidential-nomination

The only statewide experience Duckworth has is the appointed position of Director of the Illinois Department of Veterans Affairs.

She's literally a US Senator.

[Not Me, Us]

If you don't think it will be Kamala, it really is a pick em'. I'd argue Duckworth, Whitmer could be the best buys if you think he wants someone with statewide experience.

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/5883/Who-will-win-the-2020-Democratic-vice-presidential-nomination

The only statewide experience Duckworth has is the appointed position of Director of the Illinois Department of Veterans Affairs.

She's literally a US Senator.

That's federal experience, which yes, she has a ton of. But in the context that Devils30 used the term "statewide experience" (Whitmer, who's never been elected at the federal level), federal experience ≠ statewide experience.

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Statewide experience is just being elected on a statewide ballot, which being a Senator obviously is. Duckworth doesn't have much statewide executive experience, but she absolutely has statewide experience.

[Not Me, Us]

If you don't think it will be Kamala, it really is a pick em'. I'd argue Duckworth, Whitmer could be the best buys if you think he wants someone with statewide experience.

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/5883/Who-will-win-the-2020-Democratic-vice-presidential-nomination

The only statewide experience Duckworth has is the appointed position of Director of the Illinois Department of Veterans Affairs.

She's literally a US Senator.

That's federal experience, which yes, she has a ton of. But in the context that Devils30 used the term "statewide experience" (Whitmer, who's never been elected at the federal level), federal experience ≠ statewide experience.

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Statewide experience is just being elected on a statewide ballot, which being a Senator obviously is. Duckworth doesn't have much statewide executive experience, but she absolutely has statewide experience.

By otherwise mentioning only Harris & Whitmer (both of whom were actually elected to state-level offices: CA state AG & MI Governor, respectively), Devils30 seemed to be alluding to experience in state-level office (which Duckworth doesn't have), not just experience being listed on a statewide ballot (which all three have). To my eye, Devils30 seemed to be (incorrectly) making the argument that Duckworth & Whitmer's state-level experience was somehow better than Harris', which would be incorrect given that the former has no state-level experience apart from Director of the state's VA. It'd make no sense for Devils30 to be making the argument that any one of them is better than any other at being listed on a statewide ballot, because they *all* have experience being listed on statewide ballots.

Ah, I see. In that case, you're right. Honestly, I don't think levels of experience really matters when it comes to Duckworth/Harris. Both of them are plenty qualified, although I'd argue Duckworth's federal experience better prepares her for the presidency than Harris' DA and AG stuff. Whitmer is honestly not as qualified, only having 2 years as Governor definitely hurts her.

[Not Me, Us]

As unfortunate as it is, there is basically no way he doesn't pick Harris. She really does make the most sense. I'm still pulling for Warren, but I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that nothing good ever happens in presidential politics.

[Not Me, Us]

More plane talk!!

https://twitter.com/banditelli/status/1292955271652708353

Interesting. I wonder if Bernie is being considered for a cabinet post. What post would it even be?

[Not Me, Us]

Got the text, it's Harris.

[Not Me, Us]

I don't mind Harris, but I really hope there'll be a competitive primary in 2024 and not a coronation.

[Not Me, Us]

Sorry folks, gotta write in Bernie now. It's over

I hope you're trolling, because that's absurd. If you actually cared about Bernie and his movement, you wouldn't throw away your vote in a swing state.

[Not Me, Us]

I don't mind Harris, but I really hope there'll be a competitive primary in 2024 and not a coronation.

A competitive primary is practically a guarantee if she runs.

I hope so. AOC '24!