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  What should be the highest marginal federal tax rate? (search mode)
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Question: What should be the highest marginal federal tax rate?
#1
over 60%
 
#2
55%-60%
 
#3
50%-55%
 
#4
45%-50%
 
#5
40%-45%
 
#6
35%-40%
 
#7
30%35%
 
#8
less than 30%
 
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opebo
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« on: August 01, 2008, 08:37:41 AM »

However, someone making $100,000,000 pays $79,838,000 in taxes (79.8%). The tax rate gets ever higher.

Indirect tax on the poor. No free person should EVER pay more then 45% of their income in taxes.
Why? Because you say so.

No, because if you raise taxes on the wealthy and corporations all they do is pass the extra costs on to me and you.

And isn't that a dead giveaway that what they have that is valuable is not money but POWER?  In other words 'you can't touch them'?  At least under the current system where they control that which matters.
 
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opebo
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2008, 10:24:56 AM »

No, because if you raise taxes on the wealthy and corporations all they do is pass the extra costs on to me and you.

And isn't that a dead giveaway that what they have that is valuable is not money but POWER?  In other words 'you can't touch them'?  At least under the current system where they control that which matters.
 

What possible system could you recommend where someone on top doesn't have power? Roll Eyes One has never existed in the existence of humanity.

Your point is an excellent one, States; however, the Tsar did get shot. 

I suppose my retort to your fatalistic acceptance of your plight is - 'don't just sit there and take it like a chump'.
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opebo
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2008, 06:01:43 PM »

...Today, the average American in poverty lives a lifestyle comparable to that of the average American family in the 1970s.

That is one of the more ridiculous statements I've seen on this forum Fezzy. 

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We don't 'give' poor people anything, fezzy, that is the whole point.  We give everything to the elite, with some dribblings for the upper-middle class just to set the system up for hubris based duping.   But all this has to come out of someone's life blood and efforts - these are the workers.

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Their 'success' is simply political power - ownership - fezzy.  It is obscene to suggest that oppressed people should just be happy with their condition.

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Money and power are the same thing, fezzy.  Another way to say this is money is just a representation of power. 

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No, because society is a system in which each of us is a cog, festoon, and while it is natural of  you to want to avoid the issue of the man you're bleeding to gain your advantages, you can see why he might bleat a bit.

Indirect tax on the poor. No free person should EVER pay more then 45% of their income in taxes.

One of the few things I think we'll ever agree on.  Though I say no more than 50%.

It seems fundamentally unfair for you not have the majority share of benefit from your work.

They don't 'work', Mr. Mod.  They get to keep the majority share of other people's work.
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