while you were worried about two gays getting married....

[opebo]

What the hell does the 'health care crisis' have to do with the drop in median income?  True, both are terribly damaging to the working class, and both are caused by de-unionization and lack of State redistribution or Keyensian policies generally, but the health care crisis does not itself cause the drop in the median income.

[opebo]

What the hell does the 'health care crisis' have to do with the drop in median income?  True, both are terribly damaging to the working class, and both are caused by de-unionization and lack of State redistribution or Keyensian policies generally, but the health care crisis does not itself cause the drop in the median income.

uhhh opebo, dont act silly.

the more an employer has to pay in health benefits, less money is available for wages.

you know as well as anyone, that the number one concern of a corporation is to show a profit to its shareholders.

Pshaw, Mitty.  All they have to do is stop paying health benefits - problem solved.  What's to stop them once the union is gone?

What the hell does the 'health care crisis' have to do with the drop in median income?

The "health care crisis" has contributed significantly to the complete collapse of the U.S. automotive manufacturing industry.  They are continuously slashing jobs and closing plants because they're constantly fighting a losing battle against healthcare costs.

Well...that, and really sh**tty car models.

No, you're wrong.  The 'complete collapse' of the industry you mention was caused by right-wing political actions.

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No, you're wrong.  The 'complete collapse' of the industry you mention was caused by right-wing political actions.

Zuh?  Overseas car manufacturers do not have the same burden for covering health care costs of current and past employees, which gives them a massive competitive advantage.

I know you want to be partisan and rah-rah-Democrat-boom-bah, but, seriously, come on.

Well, one could certainly make the argument that opposition to health care is a right-wing political action. Of course, that's not what opebo meant. Presumably, he was referring to NAFTA and other globalization, in which case he was simply further demonstrating his idiocy. (Else, he was referring to unions, which there really are no "right-wing policies" regulating.)

Verily, I was refering to the replacement of unionized workers in one locale with more oppressed workers in another locale.   This has nothing to do with 'competitiveness' or 'globalization' in the sense that  you use the terms (and with such overweaning hubris I might add). 

These actions are simply the use of force by the politically powerful.  All your talk of markets, competitiveness, and the ridiculous public/private divide is mere window dressing - propaganda which effectly prevents serfs such as you from understanding the nature of the society in which you are enmired.