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opebo
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« on: November 30, 2005, 05:28:36 PM »

The idea that a child should be able to get an abortion without her parents' knowledge is a shocking one.

I find the notion that a young woman is legally required to notify her parents a shocking one, Emsworth.

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Everyone always brings this up.  To me this comparison calls into question the  excessive power we give parents over children, not the right to privacy.

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Your jurisprudenc is right-wing, Emsworth.  Others see a clear right to privacy in the constitution. 

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Of course it does, Emsworth.  The right to privacy clearly includes such personal decisions.

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Not at all, Emsworth, the typical parent's reaction to notification of an abortion would be to abuse the young person that is, unfortunately, placed under their power by our benighted society.  Typical abuse might be physical, as in beatings, or emotional, such as disapproval.  No, parental notification is not harmless, and your claim that it is shows your complete lack of understanding of human relationships. 

Parents are usually the greatest hazzard in a young persons life, and certainly our society errs in giving these petty tyrants too much power.  There is absolutely no useful purpose in these people being notified of an abortion, and in fact the only reason the religious want parental notification laws enacted is to create opportunities for parental abuse of youths (their stock in trade).
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opebo
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2005, 05:38:01 PM »

Who sees a 'clear' right to privacy in the Constitution? As in a generic right to privacy?

Presumably all liberals do.

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No, because I am not a Supreme Court Justice.
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2005, 06:49:21 AM »

If a Parental Notification law is passed.

The girl must be given gun training immediately afterwards to protect her from her retaliative parents.

Excellent idea phknrocket!  It is only fair, in a brutish, primitive society in which parents are allowed absolute power over their offspring, to allow the offspring carte blanche in their Rebellion.  Sic Semper Tyrannis!
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2005, 06:47:49 AM »

What sort of decision? Being born to a rapist father?

I fail to see how a rare occurance justifies having abortion completely unrestricted.

I fail to see how subjectively characterizing a behavior (having sex/getting pregnant) as 'bad' or 'irresponsible' justifies tyrrany.
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opebo
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2005, 12:10:42 PM »


They are completely different situations.  That said, I hate the parental notification law, because it then puts the decision in the hands of the girls' parents, where it should not be. 

As always, the policy of the right-wing is to maximize social control and coercion, whether it be parent over child, rich over poor, or religious over secular.  The discipline and lack of freedom that they consider a good upbringing is indicative of their oppressive vision of social engineering.
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opebo
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2005, 05:30:37 PM »


How exactly? Taking a pill to relieve a headache is clearly a more minor medical procedure than having an abortion isn't it?

It is also a procedure which requiring parental notification or consent is not going to lead to the young woman being beaten.  Only a small minority of prudes condemn having headaches, while they nearly all condemn female sexuality.
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