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opebo
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« on: June 20, 2010, 03:42:45 AM »


His point is worth taking seriously.  The enemies we had were always:

1) defensive - they were only opposing as best we could us because we were a tremendous and active threat to them.

2) weak - extraordinarily weaker than our right-wing nationalist government portrayed them.

The whole idea of the world being dangerous for the Empire is really asinine.  One might say there is a certain small danger of backlash from treating the rest of the world like **** for 60 years, but that's like saying mugging victims are a danger to the mugger.
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opebo
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2010, 05:07:46 AM »


Very true overall, but within that line of thinking one can specify that the mortal enemy of the lower 90%+ of the american population is their own ruling class.
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opebo
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2010, 06:33:58 AM »


Or, for that matter, Germany and Italy in the early 40s?

Yes, Japan when it was an independent power was an enemy, but you have to remember that Japan had no choice but to fight the US - the US was attacking Japanese interests to the point where the destruction of Japan as a power was inevitable, really from the first 1853 offense through Pearl Harbor.  In other words on balance, in the interaction between US and Japan, it is clear that the US was more the aggressor.

In the German case of course it wasn't so simple, but they also weren't really 'our enemy' - we just decided to side against them.
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2010, 12:10:49 PM »

I'm trying to figure out why the "usual suspects" are in here trying to say the US has never had a "real" enemy and what they expect to get out of the stupidest argument of the week.  Does not having a "real" enemy make America easier for them to hate?  It's pretty funny since it's not like it's an argument they can make without resorting to saying things like "hurr durr" and "Advanced Surrealism".  Pretty funny...in a "awww, look at the children trying to be clever" kind of a way.

I think the overall point is that it is only our own aggression which has created enemies for us, and/or that none of those enemies has seriously threatened the security of the United States itself.   I'll agree that this claim overstates the case a bit, but  the fact remains that there has been a rather boldfaced misrepresentation by our overlords of both the intentions of our supposed enemies, and their actual power to threaten, for obvious reasons.
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