Raise taxes on the rich

[opebo]

1) Solution: Company registered in Seychelles Islands with bearer shareholders.  He is the only shareholder and his share certificates are kept in a private vault in Switzerland (contents of safe deposit boxes are not public knowledge).  His trading account is with any brokerage company in the world and the corporation authorized him as a trader on their behalf through a power of attorney form.

Don't allow any such companies from the Seychelles, etc. to do business in the US, and/or tax the incomes disbursed from the brokerage company.  Force the brokerage companies to reveal every detail about their customers and activities or close them down, confiscating all their assets.

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Solution: Mr. RichGuy2 owns a corporation in Cyprus that is the sole licensed provider of said widgets worldwide.  All sales are made in Cyprus; your credit card gets charged there, money is deposited in to a bank account in Bermuda, etc., all in the name of this corporation.  This corporation is owned by a trust registered in the Netherlands Antilles.  All profits are made in the Cyprus corporation and is paid to the trust, from where it can be paid to any of the beneficiaries.  The Texas corporation invoices CyprusCorporation every month for all the widges shipped, rent, salary expense, etc.  Just enough to cover all the expenses.  As a result, the Texas company never makes a profit.

Require that the Cyprus corporation submit itself to american taxation or be banned from access to the US market.

I realize that our neoliberal world economy is built on this kind of 'free trade', so that reasonable police actions like the ones I mentioned would run afoul of that concept.  It would probably be necessary to get around this by setting up a sort of WTO (World Taxation Organization) in order to equalize tax rates around the world at the highest possible levels, or at least bring responsible states together to allow full investigation of criminals.  This probably wouldn't be too hard as most of the tax havens are small and would be easy to make into pariah states.

Keep in mind Richius that it is not some cleverness on your part (or their part) that gaurantees the privileged the right to avoid retrubution, but rather their actual political power. 

[opebo]

I don't want to pay taxes because the government WASTES ...  They just waste waste waste and waste.

Richious, the larger 'waste' is the amount that the privileged receive to waste upon themselves.  Even if we take 70% of their privilege, they still receive the 30% to waste upon themselves.

[opebo]

Raising taxes on the rich is absolutely necessary in countries where the inequalities raise a monstruous proportion as the USA. In countries who already have a solid welfare state, the only thing to do is not to lessen them ( as our dear Sarko did... ).

Thanks for this very intelligent and developped argument that makes me understand better your opinion.

Ah, Antonio, he's just a typical representative of the american working class - they don't know any better.  Strangely enough.

[opebo]

If the rich are taxed too much guess who they get rid of to pay the tax and stay rich..........YOU.  And if they dont buy stuff that rich peoople buy, who gets laid off.........YOU.

Dude, they get their money in the first place from the labours of their serfs. What do you think, the money comes out their ass and they employ people purely out of the goodness of their hearts?

I can just imagine it now - I get my 1 mil./year from 50 peons labouring in my, oh lets say convenience stores.  Now, I have to pay 50% on the part above 200K instead of 30%.  Ok, lets close stores, fire lots of people, and bring my income down to 200K.  Yes, I really benefit from that.  Do you people ever think about whether your right-wing talking points make any actual sense?

[opebo]

If the rich are taxed too much guess who they get rid of to pay the tax and stay rich..........YOU.  And if they dont buy stuff that rich peoople buy, who gets laid off.........YOU.

Dude, they get their money in the first place from the labours of their serfs. What do you think, the money comes out their ass and they employ people purely out of the goodness of their hearts?

I can just imagine it now - I get my 1 mil./year from 50 peons labouring in my, oh lets say convenience stores.  Now, I have to pay 50% on the part above 200K instead of 30%.  Ok, lets close stores, fire lots of people, and bring my income down to 200K.  Yes, I really benefit from that.  Do you people ever think about whether your right-wing talking points make any actual sense?

I'll cut my expenses (peon surfs) just enough to make up the difference in income, then make the others work harder, not close stores to bring my income down.

Dude, if a convenience store exists where the peons within are not already working absolutely as hard as is possible, I'll eat my hat.

[opebo]

If the rich are taxed too much guess who they get rid of to pay the tax and stay rich..........YOU.  And if they dont buy stuff that rich peoople buy, who gets laid off.........YOU.

Dude, they get their money in the first place from the labours of their serfs. What do you think, the money comes out their ass and they employ people purely out of the goodness of their hearts?

I can just imagine it now - I get my 1 mil./year from 50 peons labouring in my, oh lets say convenience stores.  Now, I have to pay 50% on the part above 200K instead of 30%.  Ok, lets close stores, fire lots of people, and bring my income down to 200K.  Yes, I really benefit from that.  Do you people ever think about whether your right-wing talking points make any actual sense?

I'll cut my expenses (peon surfs) just enough to make up the difference in income, then make the others work harder, not close stores to bring my income down.

Dude, if a convenience store exists where the peons within are not already working absolutely as hard as is possible, I'll eat my hat.

Come to Pittsburgh........would you like A1 sauce or Heinz 57 with that stetson

I only wear fishing hats, but my point is simply that capitalist organizations already and always maximize profits by maximizing worker misery.