Let's take a moment to appreciate what we had

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I agree that the Obamas certainly have a level of class not found in today's white house, but the measure of a president shouldn't be how many world leaders he can make laugh or children he can take pictures with. On the policy front, whether it's the domestic policy agenda that crushed small businesses and made healthcare more expensive (as opposed to less, as he promised), or the foreign policy that projected weakness abroad, allowing Russia to more boldly challenge us on the world stage and radical Islam to spread like wildfire, Obama was an abject failure as a president.

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I agree that the Obamas certainly have a level of class not found in today's white house, but the measure of a president shouldn't be how many world leaders he can make laugh or children he can take pictures with. On the policy front, whether it's the domestic policy agenda that crushed small businesses and made healthcare more expensive (as opposed to less, as he promised), or the foreign policy that projected weakness abroad, allowing Russia to more boldly challenge us on the world stage and radical Islam to spread like wildfire, Obama was an abject failure as a president.

I'm going to ignore all the other nonsense in this post and focus on the bolded portion of this post for a moment.  The majority of your party formed a personality cult around a sex predator whose campaign actively colluded with Russian intelligence during the campaign and who has actively pursued a blatantly pro-Russian foreign policy agenda whenever possible.  Unless you voted against Trump in 2016, you're in no position to criticize anyone for being soft on Russia.  I know intellectual honesty is hard to come by these days, but good lord, some of you guys are so full of sh!t it's insane.  I mean, give me a f***ing break!

If you did not vote for Trump in 2016 then I apologize for assuming the worst although your assessment of Obama's policies is still ridiculously inaccurate.

I left my presidential vote blank and voted down ballot for Republicans. I'm not some Trump stooge who ignores the blatant Russia pandering of the current president, but that doesn't mean I can't criticize the previous president for his failings.

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I agree that the Obamas certainly have a level of class not found in today's white house, but the measure of a president shouldn't be how many world leaders he can make laugh or children he can take pictures with. On the policy front, whether it's the domestic policy agenda that crushed small businesses and made healthcare more expensive (as opposed to less, as he promised), or the foreign policy that projected weakness abroad, allowing Russia to more boldly challenge us on the world stage and radical Islam to spread like wildfire, Obama was an abject failure as a president.

I'm going to ignore all the other nonsense in this post and focus on the bolded portion of this post for a moment.  The majority of your party formed a personality cult around a sex predator whose campaign actively colluded with Russian intelligence during the campaign and who has actively pursued a blatantly pro-Russian foreign policy agenda whenever possible.  Unless you voted against Trump in 2016, you're in no position to criticize anyone for being soft on Russia.  I know intellectual honesty is hard to come by these days, but good lord, some of you guys are so full of sh!t it's insane.  I mean, give me a f***ing break!

If you did not vote for Trump in 2016 then I apologize for assuming the worst although your assessment of Obama's policies is still ridiculously inaccurate.

I left my presidential vote blank and voted down ballot for Republicans. I'm not some Trump stooge who ignores the blatant Russia pandering of the current president, but that doesn't mean I can't criticize the previous president for his failings.

I also seem to recall the previous President mocking Romney for "living in the 80's" when he warned about Russia's ambitions, during the 2012 campaign.

What's your point?

The "muh Romney Russia 2012" is a dumb, lazy pseudo-argument, the point of which isn't even clear to me. Russia didn't try to hack any of our elections before 2012. Russia didn't invade Ukraine until 2014 and Russian support of Syria in 2012 was much less of an issue because the gravity of the civil conflict there wasn't clear. It's almost as if, gasp, geopolitics changed between 2012 and 2016. Why to Republicans keep bringing this up in the context of discussions of Russian government support of Donald Trump in the 2016 electino?

The reason it's brought up is to point out that Romney had the foresight to see that Russia was a present and growing for to American interests. The fact that those things happened after 2012 only reinforce the prescience of Romney's position.