Will non-Western democracies ever become interested in promoting democracy and human rights?

[gerritcole]

Are we going to purposely ignore all the evidence of overthrown governments and coups sponsored by the uk and USA in the name of these ideals across the world over the last century? No one cares about any of these so called ideals, especially in the west, it’s just marketing tools against the soviets that fooled the gullible and are now used as a cudgel because the west cannot use racism anymore to express their disapproval against democratic brown countries who don’t toe the western white line

[gerritcole]

I believe this would have to start at home first wouldn't it, and there's no sign of that happening anywhere.

Very much so the backsliding on freedom and democracy in the USA and uk is very concerning, hopefully under future labour pm Nadia whitcombe we can undo such backsliding, hopefully the non white deocmracies don’t kick us out of the cool kids club

[gerritcole]

As long as “democracy” is continuously weaponized as a narrative to justify white power and superiority then nope.

The West doesn’t care about democracy elsewhere outside their borders at all when throughout history it always supported regime change tactics against ELECTED governments they disliked. So using this as a narrative in their favor simply sounds unauthentically fake and self-serving only.

You mention yourself that India; Brazil; Indonesia have these positions more focused on the internal interests despite being democracies, without really questioning WHY third world countries basically all end up thinking the same regardless if they are democratic or authoritarian.

What a beautiful post. Utter hypocrisy has been a hallmark of Western foreign policy for generations and in Western usage "freedom" and "democracy" are merely code words for slavery and submission to Western imperialism.

Just look at how the supposedly sacrosanct beliefs in free trade and property rights fall by the wayside when it comes to Russian sanctions and Russian assets. Perhaps the only thing preventing the West from seizing Russian assets is a practical one; that China holds $2-3 trillion of Western assets within our borders and you seizing Russian assets would give us just cause to seize yours whenever we want.

the purpose of this thread is not to discuss "Western hypocrisy", but to discuss whether non-Western democracies may pursue a value based foreign policy, so please stay on topic otherwise I'll have to close the thread.

They are all pursuing a value based fp called self interest just like the white west which dresses it up a bit more

Edit upon further reading, oh no dont shut the thread down!!!! jajajajaja Imagine coming to a discussion forum and threatening to take your ball and go home when discussion ensues