Joe Biden 2020 campaign megathread

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Best logo in the race by far.

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Its pretty easy to see why democrats like Biden. He's a big dollop of generic with just a hint of likability. After almost 4 years of Trump, the average democrat craves anything resembling normalcy. And yes, Biden's voting record and behavior towards Anita Hill will probably hurt him in the primary. But no one is going to care come the general when he's facing Trump. As long as Biden doesn't have some reoccurring scandal(like Hillary's emails), he'll be fine.

There's the problem. He's literally got Anita Hill and the touchy-feelies against him. Trump and the hypocritical GOP will use that, and it will stick.

There's also his Ukraine issue.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/436816-joe-bidens-2020-ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revived

I'm sorry but if you believe this is going to be a successful GOP talking point in 2020, I have a bridge to sell you.

Yeah, LMAO that Trump of all people will stake out a high ground on Ukraine.

If this does have anything to do with his son, it was a tangential reason. Shokin was perhaps the core obstacle to the Ukrainian reform process when he was in office, and his legacy continues to pervade the GPO as a reactionary institution. The US was right to use its influence to remove him, though he should be in prison rather than retirement.

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Biden is going to do great mobilizing young voters who stayed home or voted 3rd party in 2016...

https://twitter.com/IbrahimAS97/status/1124116716169113601

If they wanted to be listened to, they should've voted.

I strongly disagree with Biden here, but I do agree that they should have voted. Of course, that goes for any demographic. Just f***ing vote.

I'm having trouble understanding why scolding young people is a good strategy for getting young people to vote.

I never said it was. I think Biden is inherently wrong. It's just that if younger voters voted like their older counterparts maybe politicians would make more of an effort to want to listen.

This is a very privileged answer because not all young people have the time to go out and vote like older retirees do.

The burden is not always on the individual.

What's your alternative? I promise that armed revolution is a bigger time commitment than voting.

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Biden Tells Elite Donors He Doesn’t Want to ‘Demonize’ the Rich

“Remember, I got in trouble with some of the people on my team, on the Democratic side, because I said, you know, what I’ve found is rich people are just as patriotic as poor people. Not a joke. I mean, we may not want to demonize anybody who’s made money,” Biden told about 100 well-dressed donors at the Carlyle Hotel on New York’s Upper East Side, where the hors d’oeuvres included lobster, chicken satay and crudites.
 

“Truth of the matter is, you all know, you all know in your gut what has to be done,” Biden said. “We can disagree in the margins. But the truth of the matter is, it’s all within our wheelhouse and nobody has to be punished. No one’s standard of living would change. Nothing would fundamentally change,” he said.

Biden seems to be becoming something of a Democratic Trump - an old, out-of-touch white guy who says the quiet parts out loud.

At the current rate of Bidenisms, I'm going to be so busy holding my nose come next November, that it's going to be difficult to actually mark my ballot.

I have a feeling he is gonna have to start toning this shiot down or he could legit collapse.

So, the problem is that he needs to keep quiet what he honestly believes or risk losing? Rather than he doesn't belong anywhere near the White House because he's a horrible person with horrible politics?

The only significant difference between Biden and Trump, when you move past the carefully crafted media image, is party identification. If you could vote for Biden, even holding your nose, then you really have no room to attack the reluctant Trump voting Republicans. It's all tribalism and a total failure of American "democracy" to offer an actual alternative to Trump's right-wing authoritarianism and preservation of a racist, highly unequal, and deeply unjust colonial society.

Your puritanism is getting very old for those of us more interested in achieving positive outcomes than stroking a sense of moral superiority over society at large. If you actually don't understand the issues of rule of law, good governance, and respect for norms which differentiate a politician like Biden from one like Trump, you are not qualified to discuss politics on any level.