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« on: December 21, 2017, 11:38:44 AM »

Apparently, in the Trump era, we fund the government using perpetual CRs rather than an actual budget.

what is a CR?
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2018, 07:19:28 PM »

If it passes Senate 60-40, with all Republicans flipping to yes, and 9 Democrats voting Yes, I will say that I blame Debbie Stabenow, Gary Peters, and Chris Coons (unless 1 of these is the 40th Democrat no vote, in which case I only blame the other 2).
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2018, 07:40:49 PM »

seriously?

How did it pass by a large margin?
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2018, 08:15:58 PM »


So much that you just changed your atlas avatar from Republican Party to Conservative Party!  Lol
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2018, 09:34:47 PM »

We need to overthrow Schumer from the Democratic Senate leadership.

I say Chris Murphy would make a much better Democratic Senate leader than Chuck Schumer.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2018, 12:49:27 PM »


Schumer wants everything that was required for the CR to even pass the House removed.

In theory, the freedom caucus is unneeded if they make a deal with democrats. I hope Ryan realises that.

Ryan is part of the freedom caucus in all except name.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2018, 01:05:50 PM »

I personally think it is more likely that Chuck Schumer ends up screwing other Democrats over.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2018, 01:09:35 PM »

I personally think it is more likely that Chuck Schumer ends up screwing other Democrats over.
Why?
Because that is what it seems considering his apparent willingness to allow a shorter period cr to pass with no other changes earlier.
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2018, 11:32:38 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2018, 03:44:48 PM »

Am I the only person here who feels more strongly about DACA than about CHIP?
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2018, 05:58:58 PM »

Hear me out on this. I think the Dems are going to shut down the government a second time if they don't get DACA in the 3 weeks they gave McConnell. My take is that the Ds are doing this mainly so they can get their message straight for round 2. Over the weekend Dems had conflicting messaging between "this is the GOP Shutdown" and "it's worth a shutdown to get DACA." These two claims contradict one another. In the 3 week interval, they will figure out one unifying message for the next round and go with it, while also holding McConnell to a promise that, if he breaks, will look awful for him.

In short, this isn't an attempt to posture for November. It's an attempt to posture for February while also taking CHIP off the table. This isn't over.

Good post
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2018, 12:38:49 PM »

Pelosi is not going to get her way on this one. Trump would just veto an immigration bill he doesn't like anyway. It is tough for these folks on both sides to break the knot between the budget and immigration. It's like a moth to a flame.

I am not so sure.

After the situation where Trump signed a bill increasing sanctions against Russia, only to not actually implement it, I am starting to think that Trump does not bother reading the bills that make it to his desk at all, only that he signs it if it seems that Republicans in Congress supported it.

Or even another possibility: Trump does not understand what the veto is (he has not yet vetoed anything), and is blindly signing everything, pre-assuming that it only passed because Republicans in Congresss passed it.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2018, 05:16:06 PM »

Any Democrat from a state with an R+1 or more Democratic PVI who votes for this in the Senate needs a primary.
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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2018, 11:51:00 AM »

Any Democrat who votes for this is useless.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2018, 01:09:19 PM »

I think this deal is pretty decent for a compromise.

Its not even a compromise.

Under this so called "deal", Republicans are getting almost all of what they want, and Democrats are getting none.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2018, 03:14:45 PM »

The huge increase in Defense Spending (the United States already spends way too much on defense) + DACA not included up front (we all know where that would go if Ryan/McConnell simply promise a vote and nothing else).

This is ridiculous. Completely unacceptable elements which show that this is just Schumer caving, and not actually a deal or compromise.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2018, 07:04:52 PM »

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