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« on: February 12, 2018, 10:26:54 AM »

There is no data I can find that does not indicate that blacks commit crimes, and commit violent crimes at the highest rate per capita of any demographic in America.  What is condescending is the refusal of seemingly everybody to discuss this, especially given the eagerness to discuss disparities in education, employment, income, etc.  

This is a sad and uncomfortable reality, so I understand why folks aren't eager to discuss this.  Most folks have an innate wish to deal with all folks individually, and not to blame everyone in a group for the minority in that group being dysfunctional jackasses.  But the statistics aren't kind, and they beg the questions as to why this is so, and why this continues.

What I resent is the refusal to discuss THIS aspect of inequality whenever folks propose some sort of "Conversation about Race".  Why is "institutional racism" OK to discuss, but this factor out of bounds.  And, yes, institutional racism is a legitimate issue in our society, and in criminal justice, but there is a desire on the part of the Hagrids of the Deep of the world to discuss these issues without discussing statistics by demographic on the sort of behaviors that result in individuals enduring more hardship and decreasing their employability and opportunity in greater society, regardless of race.

Lol, wat? Who isn't saying we can't discuss these things? What is problematic is saying the discussion should stop at an acknowledgement that there are racial disparities in crime without trying to understand why those disparities exist, or without trying to put any sort of context around those for a deeper understanding, as you seem to be doing. I think most people you seem to disagree with would acknowledge that there blacks commit more violent crimes, they just aren't willing to easily attribute it to any sort of innate moral or cultural failing.

What folks like myself resent is the depreciation of the fact that we have tried to live our lives according to the laws and according to Biblical morals and are now subjective to a narrative that comes mainly from the Democratic Party, once the party of folks who worked and followed the rules, that essentially blames "institutional racism" for every social ill.  The reality of MY life, is that I am subject to personal responsibility for everything I do.  Mistakes are things folks pay for.  That's the reality in every person's life, like it or not.  Somehow, I don't see how I am responsible for the inevitable consequences of the wrong choices of others, on either an individual or group level.  

That's an incredibly false narrative. I can't believe you're writing that your demographic is a victim, and the only group "personally responsible" for their actions, in a post where you acknowledge above that institutional racism is a problem in society and the criminal justice system. Do you know anybody who has smoked marijuana? Did you report them to the police and, if you did, did they face legal consequence for breaking the law? Have you been pulled over every time you speed, or pulled over for speeding and had your car searched when you were not in fact speeding? Has your job application ever been turned down because your name was DaQuan or DeAndre? It's quite frankly garbage that you assert that you, a man burdened by your whiteness, are somehow the only type of person in this country who is held responsible for your actions, when there are several classes of people who are held "responsible" for preconceived notions (many of which are often false) about their class for which they are not personally responsible.
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