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DatGOTTho
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« on: February 28, 2019, 02:12:16 PM »

Constitutional Convention Ends In Havoc; Elective Constitutional Monarchy Established
Age Limit for Prime Minister is 25


KINGS
1. George Washington (1787-1799, from Virginia)
2. Thomas Jefferson (1799-1826, from Virginia)
3. William I Henry Harrison (1826-1841, from Ohio)
4. Henry Clay (1841-1852, from Kentucky)
5. Winfield Scott (1852-1866, from New Jersey)
6. Abraham Lincoln (1866-1882, from Illinois)
7. Stephen Grover Cleveland (1882-1908, from New York)
8. William II Jennings Bryan (1908-1925, from Nebraska)
9. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1925-1945, from New York)
10. Harry S Truman (1945-1972, from Missouri)
11. Hubert H. Humphrey (1972-1978, from Minnesota)
12. James E. Carter (1978-Present, from Georgia)

PRIME MINISTERS
(key: Federalist Democratic-Republican Democratic Republican)
*: assassinated /: died of NC ^: elected king

1. John Adams (1789-1797, from Massachusetts)
2. Thomas Jefferson (1797-1799, from Virginia)^
3. James Madison (1799-1801, from Virginia)
4. Charles Cotesworth Pinckney (1801-1805, from South Carolina)
5. James Monroe (1805-1813, from Virginia)
6. DeWitt Clinton (1813-1821, from New York)
7. John Quincy Adams (1821-1829, from Massachusetts)
8. Andrew Jackson (1829-1841, from Tennessee)
9. Daniel Webster (1841-1849, from Massachusetts)
10. Zachary Taylor (1849-1850, from Louisiana)/
11. Millard Fillmore (1850-1853, from New York)
12. John Fremont (1853-1859, from California)*
13. Lewis Campbell (1859-1861, from Ohio)
14. Abraham Lincoln (1861-1865, from Illinois)
15. George McClellan (1865-1869, from New Jersey)
16. Ulysses S. Grant (1869-1877, from Illinois)
17. Samuel J. Tilden (1877-1881, from New York)
18. James A. Garfield (1881, from Ohio)*
19. Chester A. Arthur (1881-1885, from New York)
20. James G. Blaine (1885-1889, from Maine)
21. William Jennings Bryan (1889-1901, from Nebraska)
22. Alton Parker (1901-1905, from New York)
23. Theodore Roosevelt (1905-1917, from New York)
24. Charles Evans Hughes (1917-1921, from New York)
25. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1921-1925, from New York)
26. Herbert Hoover (1925-1929, from California)
27. John Nance Garner (1929-1937, from Texas)
28. Thomas Dewey (1937-1941, from New York)
29. Harry S Truman (1941-1945, from Missouri)^
30. Adlai Stevenson II (1945-1949, from Illinois)
31. Dwight D. Eisenhower (1949-1961, from New York)
32. John F. Kennedy (1961-1963, from Massachusetts)*
33. Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-1969, from Texas)
34. Richard M. Nixon (1969-1981, from California)
35. Walter Mondale (1981-1985, from Minnesota)
36. Ronald Reagan (1985-1993, from California)
37. Bill Clinton (1993-2005, from Arkansas)
38. George W. Bush (2005-2013, from Texas)
39. Willard Mitt Romney (2013-2017, from Massachusetts)
40. Barack Obama (2017-present, from Illinois)

DEPUTY PRIME MINISTERS (appointed by Prime Ministers)
^: elevated to PM (all others the same)

1. Thomas Pinckney (1789-1797, from South Carolina)
2. James Madison (1797-1799, from Virginia)^
3. James Monroe (1799-1801, from Virginia)
4. Rufus King (1801-1805, from New York)
5. George Clinton (1805-1812, from New York)/
6. Elbridge Gerry (1812-1813, from Massachusetts)
7. Jared Ingersoll (1813-1821, from Pennsylvania)
8. Richard Rush (1821-1829, from Pennsylvania)
9. John C. Calhoun (1829-1833, from South Carolina)
10. Martin van Buren (1833-1841, from New York)
11. John Tyler (1841-1849, from Virginia)
12. Millard Fillmore (1849-1850, from New York)^
13. Charles Francis Adams (1850-1853, from Massachusetts)
14. Lewis Campbell (1853-1859, from Ohio)^
15. William Pennington (1859-1861, from New Jersey)
16. Hannibal Hamlin (1861-1865, from Maine)
17. George Pendleton (1865-1869, from Ohio)
18. Schuyler Colfax (1869-1873, from Indiana)
19. Henry Wilson (1873-1875, from Massachusetts)/
20. William Wheeler (1875-1877, from New York)
21. Thomas Hendricks (1877-1881, from Indiana)
22. Chester A. Arthur (1881, from New York)^
23. John Sherman (1881-1885, from Ohio)
24. John Logan (1885-1886, from Illinois)/
25. George Edmunds (1886-1889, from Vermont)
26. Adlai Stevenson I (1889-1897, from Illinois)
27. Arthur Sewall (1897-1900, from Maine)/
28. Thomas Watson (1900-1901, from Georgia)
29. Henry G. Davis (1901-1905, from West Virginia)
30. Charles Fairbanks (1905-1918, from Indiana)/
31. Warren G. Harding (1918-1921, from Ohio)
32. James M. Cox (1921-1925, from Ohio)
33. Charles Curtis (1925-1929, from Kansas)
34. Al Smith (1929-1937, from New York)
35. Alf Landon (1937-1941, from Kansas)
36. Adlai Stevenson II (1941-1945, from Illinois)^
37. Alben Barkley (1945-1949, from Kentucky)
38. Earl Warren (1949-1961, from California)
39. Lyndon B. Johnson (1961-1963, from Texas)^
40. Hubert H. Humphrey (1963-1969, from Minnesota)
41. Spiro T. Agnew (1969-1973, from Maryland)
42. Gerald R. Ford (1973-1977, from Michigan)
43. Bob Dole (1977-1981, from Kansas)
44. Geraldine Ferraro (1981-1985, from New York)
45. George H. W. Bush (1985-1993, from Texas)
46. Al Gore (1993-2005, from Tennessee)
47. Dick Cheney (2005-2013, from Wyoming)
48. Paul Ryan (2013-2017, from Wisconsin)
49. Tim Kaine (2017-present, from Virginia)

FAILED CANDIDATES

ROYAL
1787: None
1799: John Adams
1826: Andrew Jackson
1841: Martin van Buren
1852: Franklin Pierce from New Hampshire
1866: George McClellan
1882: James G. Blaine
1908: Theodore Roosevelt
1925: Herbert Hoover
1945: Thomas Dewey
1972: Richard Nixon
1978: Bob Dole

PRIME MINISTERIAL (additional specifications only added for those not mentioned before)
1789/1792: Thomas Jefferson
1796: John Adams
1800/1812: James Madison
1804: Charles Cotesworth Pinckney
1808: Rufus King
1816: Daniel D. Tompkins from New York
1820: William Crawford from Georgia
1824: Andrew Jackson
1828: Richard Rush
1832: John Sergeant from Pennsylvania
1836: Hugh White from Tennessee
1840/1844: Martin van Buren
1848: Lewis Cass from Michigan
1852/1856: James Buchanan from Pennsylvania
1860: Stephen Douglas from Illinois
1864: Abraham Lincoln
1868: George McClellan
1872: Horatio Seymour from New York
1876: Rutherford B. Hayes from Ohio
1880: Winfield Scott Hancock from Pennsylvania
1884: Thomas Hendricks
1888: James G. Blaine
1892: Benjamin Harrison from Indiana
1896/1900: William McKinley from Ohio
1904: Alton Parker
1908: George Gray from Delaware
1912/1916: Woodrow Wilson from New Jersey
1920: Warren G. Harding
1924: Franklin Delano Roosevelt
1928/1932: Herbert Hoover
1936: Henry Wallace from New York
1940: Thomas Dewey
1944: Harold Stassen from Minnesota
1948-1956: Adlai Stevenson II
1960: Richard Nixon from California
1964: Barry Goldwater from Arizona
1968: Hubert H. Humphrey
1972: George S. McGovern from South Dakota
1976: James E. Carter
1980: Bob Dole
1984: Walter Mondale
1988: Michael Dukakis
1992: George H. W. Bush
1996: Richard Lugar from Indiana
2000: Steve Forbes from New York
2004: John Kerry from Massachusetts
2008: Hillary Clinton from New York
2012: Joe Biden from Delaware
2016: Willard Mitt Romney
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2019, 06:18:30 PM »

Ford as Cleveland:

Gerald Ford/Nelson Rockefeller, 1974-1977
Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale, 1977-1981
Gerald Ford/Bob Dole, 1981-1985
Ted Kennedy/Lloyd Bentsen, 1985-1989
Lloyd Bentsen/Birch Bayh, 1989-1997
Al Gore/Bill Clinton, 1997-2001

George W. Bush/Dick Cheney, 2001-2009
Bill Clinton/Barack Obama, 2009-2011
Barack Obama/Tim Kaine, 2011-2017
Hillary Clinton/Julian Castro, 2017-2021

Ted Cruz/Paul Ryan, 2021-present

Losing Tickets:
1976: Gerald Ford/Bob Dole
1980: Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale
1984: Ronald Reagan/George H. W. Bush
1988: Ronald Reagan/Jack Kemp
1992: George H. W. Bush/Bob Dole
1996: Ronald Reagan/Steve Forbes
2000: Al Gore/Bill Clinton
Ralph Nader/Winona LaDuke
2004: John Kerry/Evan Bayh
2008: Mike Huckabee/Rick Perry
2012: Rick Perry/Sarah Palin
2016: Ted Cruz/Carly Fiorina
2020: Hillary Clinton/Julian Castro
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2019, 10:58:34 PM »
« Edited: April 04, 2019, 11:03:38 PM by DatGOTTho »

Meh. I'll restart this thread.

ALTERNATE PRESIDENTS FROM MY ABORTIVE HITLER VS. STALIN TIMELINE
(not meant for the squeamish)

Hilliard Victory

PRESIDENTS
(note: colors are reversed due to ideological butterfly effect, due to Hilliard's views)
Adam Hilliard (D) - 1933-1961
Strom Thurmond (D) - 1961-1969
George Wallace (D) - 1969-1977
Ronald Reagan (D) - 1977-1985
Newt Gingrich (D) - 1985-1989

George H. W. Bush (R) - 1989-1997
Bill Clinton (R) - 1997-2005
John McCain (R) - 2005-2013

Donald Trump (D) - 2013-2021
Marco Rubio (R) - 2021-

VICE PRESIDENTS
J. Hamilton Lewis (D) - 1933-1939
William D. Pelley (D) - 1939-1957
Strom Thurmond (D) - 1957-1961
George L. Rockwell (D) - 1961-1969
Orval Faubus (D) - 1969-1977
George Smathers (D) - 1977-1985
Pat Buchanan (D) - 1985-1989

Jim Thompson (R) - 1989-1997
George Deukmejian (R) - 1997-2005
Al Gore (R) - 2005-2013

David Duke (D) - 2013-2021
Paul Ryan (R) - 2021-

LOSING TICKETS
1932: Joseph Steele/Upton Sinclair (F-L)
1936-1964: No major opposition
1968: John F. Kennedy/Hubert H. Humphrey (R)
1972: Hubert H. Humphrey/Ed Muskie (R)
1976: Jerry Brown/Jimmy Carter (R)
1980: Al Gore, Sr./"Scoop" Jackson (R)
1984: Walter Mondale/Geraldine Ferraro (R)
1988: Newt Gingrich/Pat Buchanan (D)
1992: Fritz Hollings/Pat Buchanan (D)
1996: Robert Bork/Clyde N. Wilson (D)
2000: Mike Huckabee/Tom Tancredo (D)
2004: David Duke/Bill O'Reilly (D)
2008: Newt Gingrich/Bill O'Reilly (D)
2012: Barack Obama/George W. Bush (R)
2016: Mitt Romney/Scott Walker (R)
2020: Ted Cruz/Steve Bannon (D)

Steele Victory

PRESIDENTS
Joseph Steele (F-L) - 1933-1953
Dwight D. Eisenhower (F-L) - 1953-1961

Lyndon B. Johnson (D) - 1961-1969
Richard M. Nixon (F-L) - 1969-1977
Ronald Reagan (D) - 1977-1981
Jimmy Carter (F-L*) - 1981-1989
George H. W. Bush (D) - 1989-1997
Bill Clinton (D) - 1997-2005

Bernie Sanders (L) - 2005-2013
Barack Obama (L) - 2013-2021

Beto O'Rourke (D) - 2021-present

*: shortened from Farmer-Labor to Labor in 1984

VICE PRESIDENTS
Upton Sinclair (F-L) - 1933-1937
Huey Long (F-L) - 1937-1945
Harry S Truman (F-L) - 1945-1953
Richard M. Nixon (F-L) - 1953-1961

George Smathers (D) - 1961-1969
Spiro T. Agnew (F-L) - 1969-1973
Hubert H. Humphrey (F-L) - 1973-1977

Gerald Ford (D) - 1977-1981
Jerry Brown (F-L) - 1981-1989
Dan Quayle (D) - 1989-1997
Richard Lugar (D) - 1997-2005

John McCain (L) - 2005-2013
Paul Ryan (L) - 2013-2021

Marco Rubio (D) - 2021-present

LOSING TICKETS
1932: Adam Hilliard/J. Hamilton Lewis (D)
1936: Adam Hilliard/Charles Evans Hughes (D)
1940: Adam Hilliard/Charles Coughlin^ (D)
1944: John Garner/Strom Thurmond (D)
1948: Strom Thurmond/Robert Taft (D)
1952: Estes Kefauver/Douglas MacArthur (D)
1956: Douglas MacArthur/Estes Kefauver (D)
1960: John F. Kennedy/Stuart Symington (F-L)
1964: John F. Kennedy/Hubert H. Humphrey (F-L)
1968: George Wallace/Orval Faubus (D)
1972: George Smathers/Nelson Rockefeller (D)
1976: Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale (F-L)
1980: Ronald Reagan/Gerald Ford (D)
1984: Gerald Ford/Jack Kemp (D)
1988: Michael Dukakis/Gary Hart (L)
1992: Jerry Brown/Al Gore (L)
1996: Bernie Sanders/Noam Chomsky (L)
2000: Mario Cuomo/Jesse Jackson (L)
2004: Richard Lugar/George W. Bush (D)
2008: George W. Bush/Sarah Palin (D)
2012: Rick Perry/Dana Rohrabacher (D)
2016: Hillary Clinton/Ted Cruz (D)
2020: Elizabeth Warren/Cory Booker (L)

^: Coughlin, having been born in Canada to Canadian parents, was technically ineligible, anyway.
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2019, 11:40:35 PM »

Kennedy as FDR

35. John F. Kennedy/Lyndon B. Johnson (1961-1969), Hubert H. Humphrey (1969-1973), James E. Carter (1973)
36. James E. Carter/vacant (1973-1977), Lloyd Bentsen (1977-1981)
37. Ronald Reagan/Jack Kemp (1981-1989)
38. Michael Dukakis/Robert Byrd (1989-1991)
39. Robert Byrd/vacant (1991-1993), Paul Simon (1993-1997)
40. Mitch McConnell/Dan Quayle (1997-2002)
41. Dan Quayle/George Pataki (2002-2005)
42. Al Gore/Carol Moseley Braun (2005-2009)
43. Rudy Giuliani/Mitt Romney (2009-2017)
44. Mitt Romney/Rick Perry (2017-2021)

Losers
1960: Joe McCarthy (still alive)/Richard Nixon
1964: Barry Goldwater/Bill Loeb III
1968: Nelson Rockefeller/Mark Hatfield
1972: George Romney/Nelson Rockefeller
1976: George Romney/Ronald Reagan
1980: Dan Walker/Fritz Hollings
1984: Dan Walker/Reubin Askew
1988: Jack Kemp/George Deukmejian
1992: Pat Buchanan/Bob Dole
1996: Paul Simon/Paul Tsongas
2000: Bernie Sanders/Byron Dorgan
2004: Dan Quayle/Bill Frist
2008: Al Gore/Carol Moseley Braun
2012: Carol Moseley Braun/Andrew Cuomo
2016: Deval Patrick/Tim Kaine
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2019, 08:44:14 PM »

Meh. I'll restart this thread.

ALTERNATE PRESIDENTS FROM MY ABORTIVE HITLER VS. STALIN TIMELINE
(not meant for the squeamish)

Hilliard Victory

PRESIDENTS
(note: colors are reversed due to ideological butterfly effect, due to Hilliard's views)
Adam Hilliard (D) - 1933-1961
Strom Thurmond (D) - 1961-1969
George Wallace (D) - 1969-1977
Ronald Reagan (D) - 1977-1985
Newt Gingrich (D) - 1985-1989

George H. W. Bush (R) - 1989-1997
Bill Clinton (R) - 1997-2005
John McCain (R) - 2005-2013

Donald Trump (D) - 2013-2021
Marco Rubio (R) - 2021-

VICE PRESIDENTS
J. Hamilton Lewis (D) - 1933-1939
William D. Pelley (D) - 1939-1957
Strom Thurmond (D) - 1957-1961
George L. Rockwell (D) - 1961-1969
Orval Faubus (D) - 1969-1977
George Smathers (D) - 1977-1985
Pat Buchanan (D) - 1985-1989

Jim Thompson (R) - 1989-1997
George Deukmejian (R) - 1997-2005
Al Gore (R) - 2005-2013

David Duke (D) - 2013-2021
Paul Ryan (R) - 2021-

LOSING TICKETS
1932: Joseph Steele/Upton Sinclair (F-L)
1936-1964: No major opposition
1968: John F. Kennedy/Hubert H. Humphrey (R)
1972: Hubert H. Humphrey/Ed Muskie (R)
1976: Jerry Brown/Jimmy Carter (R)
1980: Al Gore, Sr./"Scoop" Jackson (R)
1984: Walter Mondale/Geraldine Ferraro (R)
1988: Newt Gingrich/Pat Buchanan (D)
1992: Fritz Hollings/Pat Buchanan (D)
1996: Robert Bork/Clyde N. Wilson (D)
2000: Mike Huckabee/Tom Tancredo (D)
2004: David Duke/Bill O'Reilly (D)
2008: Newt Gingrich/Bill O'Reilly (D)
2012: Barack Obama/George W. Bush (R)
2016: Mitt Romney/Scott Walker (R)
2020: Ted Cruz/Steve Bannon (D)

Steele Victory

PRESIDENTS
Joseph Steele (F-L) - 1933-1953
Dwight D. Eisenhower (F-L) - 1953-1961

Lyndon B. Johnson (D) - 1961-1969
Richard M. Nixon (F-L) - 1969-1977
Ronald Reagan (D) - 1977-1981
Jimmy Carter (F-L*) - 1981-1989
George H. W. Bush (D) - 1989-1997
Bill Clinton (D) - 1997-2005

Bernie Sanders (L) - 2005-2013
Barack Obama (L) - 2013-2021

Beto O'Rourke (D) - 2021-present

*: shortened from Farmer-Labor to Labor in 1984

VICE PRESIDENTS
Upton Sinclair (F-L) - 1933-1937
Huey Long (F-L) - 1937-1945
Harry S Truman (F-L) - 1945-1953
Richard M. Nixon (F-L) - 1953-1961

George Smathers (D) - 1961-1969
Spiro T. Agnew (F-L) - 1969-1973
Hubert H. Humphrey (F-L) - 1973-1977

Gerald Ford (D) - 1977-1981
Jerry Brown (F-L) - 1981-1989
Dan Quayle (D) - 1989-1997
Richard Lugar (D) - 1997-2005

John McCain (L) - 2005-2013
Paul Ryan (L) - 2013-2021

Marco Rubio (D) - 2021-present

LOSING TICKETS
1932: Adam Hilliard/J. Hamilton Lewis (D)
1936: Adam Hilliard/Charles Evans Hughes (D)
1940: Adam Hilliard/Charles Coughlin^ (D)
1944: John Garner/Strom Thurmond (D)
1948: Strom Thurmond/Robert Taft (D)
1952: Estes Kefauver/Douglas MacArthur (D)
1956: Douglas MacArthur/Estes Kefauver (D)
1960: John F. Kennedy/Stuart Symington (F-L)
1964: John F. Kennedy/Hubert H. Humphrey (F-L)
1968: George Wallace/Orval Faubus (D)
1972: George Smathers/Nelson Rockefeller (D)
1976: Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale (F-L)
1980: Ronald Reagan/Gerald Ford (D)
1984: Gerald Ford/Jack Kemp (D)
1988: Michael Dukakis/Gary Hart (L)
1992: Jerry Brown/Al Gore (L)
1996: Bernie Sanders/Noam Chomsky (L)
2000: Mario Cuomo/Jesse Jackson (L)
2004: Richard Lugar/George W. Bush (D)
2008: George W. Bush/Sarah Palin (D)
2012: Rick Perry/Dana Rohrabacher (D)
2016: Hillary Clinton/Ted Cruz (D)
2020: Elizabeth Warren/Cory Booker (L)

^: Coughlin, having been born in Canada to Canadian parents, was technically ineligible, anyway.

Sorry to see the Hilliard as President and Steel as President timelines aborted. Correct me if I am wrong but

HILLIARD AS PRESIDENT
Obviously, Hilliard rules the USA as a de facto dictator, ethnically cleanses the black community and bans political opposition. The assassination of Steele marks the death of the Farmer-Labor party. Hilliard does succeed in ending the Great Depression and siding with Goebbels Germany in World War II. By the 1960s, an aging Hilliard resigns or does not run for reelection in 1960. He hands off the White House to his protege Strom Thurmond.

Thurmond slowly dismantles the dictatorial apparatus that he inherited from Hilliard which he is able to do after Hilliard's death. Thurmond lifts the political ban on opposition parties. The Republican party is revived and runs candidates for President starting in 1968 but they still do not have a coalition that can win a national election.

Thurmond's successors govern on a conservative agenda while the Republicans function as the loyal opposition and are philosophically liberal. After 56 years in power, the Democrats lose the Presidency. The Republicans would hold the Presidency for 16 years and liberalize the country. Trump wins back the White House for the Democrats in 2012 and holds the Presidency for 2 terms before Marco Rubio leads the Republicans back to power.

STEELE AS PRESIDENT
Joseph Steele's uber-socialist agenda and his support of the poor and working class bring the United States out of the Great Depression despite corruption occurring in the Steele Administration. Steele allows political opposition to exist although he will cheat his way to victory. The Democrats remain strongest in the South and upper New England (and competitive in the Midwest). Obviously, Steele is sympathetic to the USSR especially if it is run by Nikita Khrushchev.

Since the Nazis never come to power (democratically) in Germany, instability still exists. Ultimately, the country falls to civil war until the military steps in suspends democracy. But there is no Holocaust of Europe's Jewish community. The United States still goes to war when the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor. General Eisenhower becomes a popular hero when he leads the successful liberation of Formosa and Korea from the Japanese Empire.

Steele's New Deal which included massive spending on military technology results in victory in the American-Japanese War (1941-1946) as a shock and awe style destruction of Japanese military bases, munitions factories and the royal palace which decapitates the entire royal family and government. Per the terms of the Treaty of Hong Kong, Formosa is given to China, Korea becomes an independent nation (united) under USSR protection, northern Japan is annexed by the USSR and the remainder of Japan becomes a Republic (and a de facto protectorate of the USA) that abolishes its monarchy.

After 20 years as President, Steel retires and is succeeded by war hero Eisenhower who governs as a moderate. The Farmer-Labor Party changes its name to just Labor.

The Democrat and Labor parties rotate control of the Presidency to the present day. Labor is a progressive, left-of-center party and the Democrats are the conservative party.

Effectively, yes.
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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2019, 10:57:40 PM »

Kennedy as Wilson
John F. Kennedy/Lyndon B. Johnson 1961-1969
Richard M. Nixon/Edward Brooke 1969-1971
Edward Brooke/none 1971-1973; Charles H. Percy 1973-1977
Ronald Reagan/Bob Dole 1977-1981

Ted Kennedy/Lloyd Bentsen 1981-1989; Paul Simon 1989-1993; Dick Gephardt 1993
Dick Gephardt/none 1993-1997; Tom Daschle 1997-2001

Colin Powell/Mitch McConnell 2001-2009
Barack Obama/Mark Pryor 2009-2011
Mark Pryor/none 2011-2013; Al Franken 2013-2017

Mitch McConnell/Richard Burr 2017-present

Losing Tickets:
1960: Nelson Rockefeller/Hiram Fong, Richard Nixon/Robert Taft, Jr.
1964: Charles Evans Whittaker/Richard M. Nixon
1968: Pat Brown/Ted Kennedy
1972: Robert Byrd/Quentin Burdick
1976: Hugh Carey/Jimmy Carter
1980: Ronald Reagan/Bob Dole
1984: Bob Dole/Charles Krauthammer
1988: George H. W. Bush/George Deukmejian
1992: Al D'Amato/George Voinovich
1996: Al D'Amato/George Deukmejian
2000: Bill Clinton/Al Gore
2004: Bill Clinton/Mark Pryor
2008: Mitch McConnell/Susan Collins
2012: Donald Trump/Mitt Romney
2016: Al Franken/Bernie Sanders, Donald Trump/David Duke
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2019, 10:28:20 AM »

The Presidents Without the Presidents

1. Henry Knox/Samuel Adams 1789-1793
2. John Hancock/Thomas Pinckney 1793
3. Thomas Pinckney/vacant 1793-1797, Alexander Hamilton 1797-1801

4. Aaron Burr/George Clinton 1801-1812, vacant 1812-1813, Elbridge Gerry 1813-1814, vacant 1814-1817
(Thirteenth Amendment passed in 1818 to prevent this from happening again)
5. Rufus King/John E. Howard 1817-1825
6. Henry Clay/John C. Calhoun 1825-1829, Richard Rush 1829-1833
7. Andrew Stevenson/Charles E. Dudley 1833-1841, vacant 1841
8. Francis Granger/Daniel Webster 1841-1849
9. Robert M. T. Hunter/William Rufus King 1849-1853, vacant 1853-1857
10. Stephen Douglas/Benjamin Fitzpatrick 1857-1861
11. Benjamin Fitzpatrick/vacant 1861-1865

12. William Seward/Hannibal Hamlin 1865-1872
13. Hannibal Hamlin/vacant 1872-1873
14. Joseph Hooker/Schuyler Colfax 1873-1877

15. Samuel Tilden/Thomas Hendricks 1877-1881
16. James G. Blaine/John A. Logan 1881-1886, vacant 1886-1889
17. John Sherman/Levi P. Morton 1889-1897

18. William Jennings Bryan/Tom Watson 1897-1905
19. William Randolph Hearst/Alton B. Parker 1905-1913
20. Robert M. LaFollette/Elihu Root 1913-1921
21. James Cox/William G. McAdoo 1921-1929
22. Al Smith/Joseph T. Robinson 1929-1933

23. Frank Orren Lowden/Alf Landon 1933-1937
24. Henry Wallace/John Garner 1937-1945
25. John Garner/Alben Barkley 1945-1949

26. Douglas MacArthur/Earl Warren 1949-1957
27. Earl Warren/Charles A. Halleck 1957-1965

28. Hubert H. Humphrey/Ed Muskie 1965-1973
29. Nelson Rockefeller/Barry Goldwater 1973-1977
30. Jerry Brown/Ted Kennedy 1977-1981
31. John Anderson/Howard Baker 1981-1989
32. Howard Baker/Bob Dole 1989-1997

33. Al Gore/Joe Lieberman 1997-2005
34. Joe Lieberman/Mark Pryor 2005-2013

35. Paul Ryan/Lindsey Graham 2013-2021

Losing Tickets:
1789: None
1792: Patrick Henry/George Clinton
1796: George Clinton/Aaron Burr
1800: Charles Cotesworth Pinckney/Rufus King
1804: Alexander Hamilton/John C. Smith
1808: Rufus King/Timothy Pitkin
1812: DeWitt Clinton/Jared Ingersoll
1816: Aaron Burr/Daniel D. Tompkins
1820: William Crawford/Henry Clay
1824: John E. Howard/Richard Rush
1828: John C. Calhoun/Andrew Stevenson
1832: Richard Rush/William Wirt
1836: Daniel Webster/John Bell
1840: Felix Grundy/John Jones
1844: George M. Dallas/Alexander O. Anderson
1848: Theodore Frelinghuysen/John Davis
1852: Winfield Scott/William Graham
1856: John C. Fremont/James G. Birney
1860: Salmon P. Chase/Edwin Stanton
1864: Benjamin Fitzpatrick/George B. McClellan
1868: Horatio Seymour/Francis Blair
1872: Francis Blair/James Longstreet
1876: Schuyler Colfax/William A. Wheeler
1880: Thomas Hendricks/Lucius Robinson
1884: Thomas Hendricks/David B. Hill
1888: Isaac P. Gray/Patrick A. Collins
1892: David B. Hill/Adlai Stevenson I
1896: Thomas Bracket Reed/William B. Allison
1900: Thomas Bracket Reed/Joseph B. Foraker
1904: Charles Fairbanks/Frank S. Black
1908: Henry Cabot Lodge/Joseph Gurney Cannon
1912: Champ Clark/Oscar Underwood
1916: Thomas R. Marshall/Simeon E. Baldwin
1920: Hiram Johnson/Nicholas Murray Butler
1924: Hiram Johnson/James E. Watson
1928: Charles Curtis/Alvan T. Fuller
1932: Al Smith/Joseph T. Robinson
1936: Frank Orren Lowden/Alf Landon
1940: Alf Landon/Frederick Steiwer
1944: Thomas Dewey/John Bricker
1948: John Garner/Alben Barkley
1952: Richard Russell/Adlai Stevenson II
1956: Adlai Stevenson II/Estes Kefauver
1960: Stuart Symington/Henry Jackson
1964: George Romney/Nelson Rockefeller
1968: Barry Goldwater/William Miller
1972: Ed Muskie/George McGovern
1976: Nelson Rockefeller/Barry Goldwater
1980: Jerry Brown/Ted Kennedy
1984: Walter Mondale/Gary Hart
1988: Michael Dukakis/Lloyd Bentsen
1992: Al Gore/Mario Cuomo
1996: Bob Dole/Jack Kemp
2000: John McCain/Steve Forbes
2004: Steve Forbes/Dick Cheney
2008: Mitt Romney/Mike Huckabee
2012: Hillary Rodham/Deval Patrick
2016: Elizabeth Warren/Chris Dodd*

*: this only applies to people who have not yet been President, not people who absolutely won't be President
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2019, 05:43:56 PM »

(just to have an obscenely long one)

Jefferson as Washington

Thomas Jefferson/Elbridge Gerry 1801-1809
Elbridge Gerry
/"Light-Horse Harry" Lee 1809-1813
"Light-Horse Harry" Lee/Alexander Hamilton 1813-1817, DeWitt Clinton 1817-1818
DeWitt Clinton/vacant 1818-1821

James Monroe/Daniel D. Tompkins 1821-1825/vacant 1825-1829
John Tyler/Joseph C. Yates 1829-1833

Daniel Webster/William C. Preston 1833-1841
James K. Polk/John C. Calhoun 1841-1845, William L. Marcy 1845-1849
William L. Marcy/William O. Butler 1849-1853

Jacob Burnet/William C. Rives 1853
William C. Rives/vacant 1853-1857

Cave Johnson/James Buchanan 1857-1861
Winfield Scott/Edwin D. Morgan 1861-1865
Nathaniel B. Baker/Benjamin Fitzpatrick 1865-1869
Charles R. Buckalew/Francis Blair 1869-1873

Ulysses S. Grant/James G. Blaine 1873-1877, Henry Cooper 1877
Henry Cooper/vacant 1877-1881
Shelby Moore Cullom/John P. C. Shanks 1881-1885, William A. Wheeler 1885-1887, vacant 1887-1889
J. Warren Keifer/Henry L. Dawes 1889-1893
Henry L. Dawes/none 1893-1897
David B. Hill/David Turpie 1897-1901
Charles W. Fairbanks/Theodore Roosevelt 1901-1905
David B. Hill/Henry T. Rainey 1905-1909
William Howard Taft/Charles Evans Hughes 1909-1913
Charles Evans Hughes/vacant 1913-1917, James A. Hemenway 1917-1921
Warren G. Harding/William M. Calder 1921-1923
William M. Calder/vacant 1923-1925

George S. Silzer/Thomas Taggart 1925-1929, vacant 1929-1933
Simeon D. Fess/Frank G. Allen 1933-1936
Frank G. Allen/vacant 1936-1937, Frank Orren Lowden 1937-1941
Lester J. Dickinson/Payne Ratner 1941-1945

Herbert H. Lehman/Coke Stevenson 1945-1953, Guy Gillette 1953-1957, Stuart Symington 1957
Stuart Symington/none 1957-1961, Earle Clements 1961-1965

Nelson Rockefeller/Earl Warren 1965-1973
John F. Kennedy/Lloyd Bentsen 1973-1975
Lloyd Bentsen/vacant 1975-1977, Hubert H. Humphrey 1977-1978, vacant 1978-1981

Ronald Reagan/Charles Mathias 1981-1985, William Milliken 1985-1986
William Milliken/Al D'Amato 1986-1989

Sam Nunn/Rudy Perpich 1989-1993
George Deukmejian/Phil Gramm 1993-2001
Phil Gramm/Richard Lugar 2001-2005

Mark Pryor/Phil Bredesen 2005-2013
Rick Perry/John Barrasso 2013-2021
Tammy Duckworth/Chris Coons 2021-2029
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