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Holy Unifying Centrist
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« on: May 13, 2018, 03:25:45 PM »

I think Obama's ratings will follow a trajectory similar to that of Ulysses Grant's. Grant was thought of as a terrific president when he left office and for some years after, but as time went on his popularity faded and his approvals sank to the lower end of the spectrum. I think people who did not live through the Obama administration will eventually see that his economy wasn't great, that his reelection was slim, that the two midterms over which he presided were terrible for Democrats, and that he ultimately failed to pass the torch to his hand-picked successor.

The last 3 are totally irrelevant to Obama's performance as President. And the economy was fairly good at the end of his term. He was handed the worst economy since the Great Depression, yet he got us out of the recession way faster than FDR. Obama will look great in history as the President who helped get us out of such a horrible great depression despite facing such big opposition.

Obama was overall a good president, even if I didn't always like what he did.


As for overrated presidents: FDR, Kennedy, and Wilson. Moreso Kennedy and Wilson than FDR.
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Holy Unifying Centrist
DTC
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Junior Chimp
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E: 9.53, S: 10.54

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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2018, 03:49:12 PM »
« Edited: May 13, 2018, 07:58:26 PM by Vice President PiT »

I think Obama's ratings will follow a trajectory similar to that of Ulysses Grant's. Grant was thought of as a terrific president when he left office and for some years after, but as time went on his popularity faded and his approvals sank to the lower end of the spectrum. I think people who did not live through the Obama administration will eventually see that his economy wasn't great, that his reelection was slim, that the two midterms over which he presided were terrible for Democrats, and that he ultimately failed to pass the torch to his hand-picked successor.

The last 3 are totally irrelevant to Obama's performance as President. And the economy was fairly good at the end of his term. He was handed the worst economy since the Great Depression, yet he got us out of the recession way faster than FDR. Obama will look great in history as the President who helped get us out of such a horrible great depression despite facing such big opposition.

Obama was overall a good president, even if I didn't always like what he did.


As for overrated presidents: FDR, Kennedy, and Wilson. Moreso Kennedy and Wilson than FDR.

I don't see how you can say that the four elections since 2008 haven't been referenda on Obama. The gradual loss of Democratic seats in the House, Senate, and state governments will always be a part of Obama's legacy. I'd also venture to say that the 2010s will be remembered as a pretty divisive and polarizing time period, no doubt contributing to the rise of Donald Trump.

2012, the election where Obama won by 4%, dems won the house PV by 1%, and won 2 seats in a Senate map that was supposed to be a disaster for democrats, was a referendum on Obama.

Reagan got OBLITERATED (harder than Obama) in 1982 and 1986, and no one cares about that in his history.
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Holy Unifying Centrist
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,235


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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2018, 03:56:15 PM »
« Edited: May 13, 2018, 03:59:49 PM by Cadillac Conservative »

In '82 and '86 people voted on the candidate not the president

Reagan's approvals were in the 40s in both Nov 82 and Nov 86. Granted, that was because of some ill-timed economic events, but Obama was gifted a terrible economy from the start, so it's fair game to attack Reagan for it if we're attacking Obama.

You guys just proved my theory that people will forget about Obama's midterms: you guys forgot how Reagan got EVISCERATED in both of his midterms, far harder than Obama. And he had lower approvals in his midterms. Thanks for proving my point!
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