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Jacobtm
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« on: October 25, 2011, 05:59:36 PM »
« edited: October 25, 2011, 06:02:07 PM by Jacobtm »

Why should Afghanistan be grateful to the U.S.?

We have not helped them. We have invaded them.
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Jacobtm
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2011, 08:43:44 PM »
« Edited: October 25, 2011, 08:48:28 PM by Jacobtm »

It's not possible we've done both?  There has never been more children going to school in the country, that probably wasn't possible without the invasion.  And this isn't about Afghans being grateful or not, it's about Karzai.

No country appreciates being invaded and occupied. Especially Afghanistan, which has been invaded and occupied more than enough.

Karzai follows in a long line of people we thought would be our puppets but it didn't work out that way. If I remember correctly, that's pretty much what happens all the time.

We should stop invading countries to install new governments. It doesn't even work out in a cynical realpolitik way. That's a perfectly libertarian position, don't you think?
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2011, 11:05:43 PM »

We should stop invading countries to install new governments.[/b] It doesn't even work out in a cynical realpolitik way. That's a perfectly libertarian position, don't you think?

In the case of Afghanistan that is not really the reason we wound up there to start with. Further, I doubt that had the aged King or Rabbani been not pressured to stand aside and were selected at the 2002 Loya Jirga that things would be much better.

The Bush Doctrine is exactly the reason we went there. It took us 10 years to find Bin Laden, but in the meantime we DID quickly overthrow Afghanistan's government and put Karzai in power.

I'm not defending the previous Afghan government, but it is not our place to go overthrowing one government to install another. Bringing 10 years of war to Afghanistan has not helped them. Karzai is no a good leader.

Do you think it's a positive thing to constantly be invading other countries to overthrow their leaders and prop up our own puppets? That is largely the reason WHY we have to deal with terrorism in the first place, our support for dictators in the muslim world and our military interventions there.

It's best to just not invade countries whenever we goddamn please.

Can't believe that seems like a radical position

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