Dumping gay marriage prop in California is getting intense

[Flying Dog]

Give it 15-20 years.

[Flying Dog]

This thread's getting intense.

As for me, I am fully supportive of Civil Unions/ Gay marriage and the like. There's no such thing as the 'sanctity' of marriage anymore, if there ever was...

[Flying Dog]

I personally think that it's stupid to resort to only talking about a hyperminority of the people who disagree with you.  How does it feel to be put in with homophobic bigots because you disagree with gay marriage?

There are jerks on both sides.  I don't see why you think it's more important to decry people who don't post here than respond to those who do, Mike, but whatever.

The only ones who are acting like jerks are the pro same sex marriage people who want to stump out any descent. Nobody is being bigoted to gay people or atleast not on the level that blacks went through for almost 200 years.  If you ask me gay rights has come a long ing way in just a span of 20 years. If this was 1950 you wouldn't dare be acting like an ass protesting about gay rights, so enough already about gay civil  rights.  Homosexual people get treated just like everbody else from what I have saw in my small town of hartwell GA.  The issue is same sex marriage, and you know that the foundation of marriage was never intended for same sex couples. You talk about water fountains and No negro signs ... none of that is taking place when it comes to gay rights.  Have you seen any NO GAYS! or separate water fountains?   I don't Judge people by who they sleep with, its none of my business and I could care less.  For all you know I could be sleeping around with the same sex.   The progressive left are delusional. They have always been delusional, because their prime delusion is that they are smarter than the common man and thus deserve to tell him what to do and how to think. Thats whats going on here in this case.

Must be nice to live in a box that small....

[Flying Dog]

I still get a chuckle when marriage is referred to as an "institution" or "sacred." Just look at history. I mean, marriage has been used as a political ploy, used to seal national alliances, and just as a means to procreate. Just go back to King Henry to see how sacred he viewed marriage. The sanctity of marriage, if there ever was a concept, certainly doesn't exist anymore. As a Catholic, I believe marriage is a sacrament awarded to you by God for you to make holy. It doesn't come that way.


By the way, the whole concept of Gay's choosing their sexuality is a concept that even the most conservative Catholics won't even defend any more.

[Flying Dog]

I didn't say all of them "Most" not all.

I have met some homosexual people who I really felt was born gay.

You do have bisexuals and closet gay people.. don't forget about those.

For those people you have met, who you consider to be born gay, does it really matter to you if they get married? If they have a little family wedding like everyone else, move to a house, work and go on vacation every year and grow old together what, to you, are they doing to society? What are they damaging? What are they cheapening?

The Netherlands have had gay marriage for 7 years now and life simply goes on. Gay and straights still marry (and still divorce). The state isn't allowing people to marry their cat or letting people have 6 wives. The 'slope' isn't slippery. It's not slippery in Belgium either, or Spain or even in South Africa.

How is the population outlook in Europe right now?

Attributing the Western European population stagnation to something like Gay Marriage has to be the dumbest, most idiotic idea ever conceived on this forum -- or at least in the top ten. Do some research before you post stuff like that.

[Flying Dog]

I didn't say all of them "Most" not all.

I have met some homosexual people who I really felt was born gay.

You do have bisexuals and closet gay people.. don't forget about those.

For those people you have met, who you consider to be born gay, does it really matter to you if they get married? If they have a little family wedding like everyone else, move to a house, work and go on vacation every year and grow old together what, to you, are they doing to society? What are they damaging? What are they cheapening?

The Netherlands have had gay marriage for 7 years now and life simply goes on. Gay and straights still marry (and still divorce). The state isn't allowing people to marry their cat or letting people have 6 wives. The 'slope' isn't slippery. It's not slippery in Belgium either, or Spain or even in South Africa.

How is the population outlook in Europe right now?

Attributing the Western European population stagnation to something like Gay Marriage has to be the dumbest, most idiotic idea ever conceived on this forum -- or at least in the top ten. Do some research before you post stuff like that.

Iam just asking the question, iam not suggesting anything.   You are pulling your attack pistol out too fast.  Slow your role dude.

Come on, I can connect the dots. Like Afleitch said, why pose the question then?