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Dr. Cynic
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« on: August 04, 2014, 08:05:51 PM »

This is not, I stress, a new political party. This is a political action group dedicated to advancing the idea of an Atlasian Parliament as opposed to the current political system. I ask everyone and anyone who supports this idea to sign in below.

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Dr. Cynic
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2014, 08:33:17 PM »

I've flirted with this idea but came to the conclusion that it would be quite literally unworkable. We don't have anywhere near the active membership that a parliamentary government - a government party, an opposition, backbenchers... - would require in order to function.

I agree - to me, this is a critical-mass issue. I don't see the critical mass of activity.

It has to be promoted though and is is something worth exploring at least. I think that by promoting the idea, you can eventually find the activity you need for it. It might take awhile, it might never happen. Since when though does that stop an advocacy group?
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2014, 09:46:41 PM »

No, absolutely have the discussion but if something like this is going to happen, it's a long-game scenario.

Right now even, the group is just in a planning phase. I'm not saying I want this done tomorrow. This is something I want to work towards eventually.
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Dr. Cynic
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2014, 01:57:45 PM »

Basically, this all party group is designed to advance the idea of a parliamentary government. Sure, right now, there probably isn't the activity to do it, but I figured what the hell?

There are a couple of ideas I have that could be batted around to see if it could work. The first idea lines up as follows:

PM---Leader of the Opposition
Secretary of Internal Affairs---Shadow Secretary
Foreign Secretary---Shadow Secretary
Treasury Secretary---Shadow Secretary

Backbenchers (Between 10-20. Depending on activity)

GM (as before)

Courts + Attorney General.

Elections are party list PR. (Haven't considered really if I prefer open or closed list)

Party loyalty will be more important in this particular style of the game.

That's the first proposal of what I'd hope a parliamentary system would look like.
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Dr. Cynic
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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2014, 02:34:47 PM »

Guys,
This game is based on the US.
Not the UK


It doesn't matter. It's not a model unique to any one country. The UK doesn't elect by party list PR and it's not like such a system can't be allowed here over time. That strikes me as an absurd reason to oppose it.
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Dr. Cynic
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2014, 03:38:42 PM »

Guys,
This game is based on the US.
Not the UK


It doesn't matter. It's not a model unique to any one country. The UK doesn't elect by party list PR and it's not like such a system can't be allowed here over time. That strikes me as an absurd reason to oppose it.

Cynic,
There is a difference between simply changing the voting vote, and between completely changing the system, from a presidentialism system to a parlementarism system.

I want to change the system.... Someday. Let's face it, it's doubtful it will ever happen, however, it's not as if parliamentary democracy is unique to the UK.
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Dr. Cynic
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2014, 06:34:16 PM »

If anyone has paid any attention to it, yes, it would probably end Atlasia. We probably would need to found a new nation (Though I've never understood why that's so horrible). But that's not necessarily the case. We would need a new constitution though.

As far as admins, that's not anyone's fault. Dump them and get new ones then that will. Shall we campaign for that? I know it's popular to campaign to dump admins...
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Dr. Cynic
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2014, 12:11:41 PM »

Why not create two houses with about 20 people each both at the federal level and we do away entirely with regional politics? We could have a similar number of officeholders.

Some things would change, but I believe that people can eventually be won over to the idea. Political games have to evolve and this is a step that we could take in that evolution.
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