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TheLeftwardTide
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« on: August 05, 2017, 06:07:34 PM »
« edited: August 05, 2017, 06:09:26 PM by TheLeftwardTide »

If the economic populists take over the democrats, I'm gone.
bye felicia

[To OP] I agree. I wouldn't be surprised if the 2018 midterms are a sh**tshow too. The thing is, progressives tend to be much more energized than establishment Dems. We have the momentum, and we will fight tooth-and-nail to get a progressive nominated, then either energetically or begrudgingly vote for whoever the eventual nominee is.

However, I think if we are to win, two things must happen:
1) Youth turnout in the primaries is very high
2) More minorities, specifically African-Americans, have to back progressives.

The second point is most dependent on who the establishment candidate is in 2020, and how the progressives tailor their messaging. So it makes perfect sense why the establishment wants to nominate candidate with major inroads into the minority community. Kamala Harris is the perfect fit, because she is not only half-black, but also half-Indian, female, and young. She colors in so many of those identity-politics bingo squares. A candidate like Kirsten Gillibrand would fare much worse in this regard, losing key support in the South. On the progressive side, issues such as education, public housing, and especially criminal justice reform will have to be at the forefront of discussion. Whoever the progressive candidate is will have to campaign relentlessly in the South in the weeks leading up to Super Tuesday, maybe even flipping Arkansas or Louisiana in a Bernie-Michigan fashion.
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TheLeftwardTide
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2017, 10:08:03 AM »

Also, you guys are overestimating how many Progressives are willing to defect for a third party; 2016 proved that number is rather low. The bigger worry for Democrats should be turnout. Low turnout has always been associated with poorer Democratic performance. Based on how things are shaping up so far, I don't expect to vote in the 2020 GE.
Ah, must be nice to be a white straight man who isn't affected by the sh**t storm that is trump.  Must be nice to be so selfish and sad that you can't get everything you want so you just sit out.  Must be real nice to sit on your ass rather than do the bare minimum.

Goes for all those who rather see Trump elected than vote dem come 2018 and 2020. 

As an first-generation suburbanite who's parents are from one of the seven "muslim ban" countries, who would be directly affected by said "muslim ban", you can go f**k right off with your identity politics. The division of the negative effects of Trump's policies will be much more based off of social class, not on race/gender/sexuality. I'll still be OK, but the guy who loses his healthcare won't be.
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