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MillennialModerate
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« on: July 27, 2017, 02:49:41 PM »

"Dewey defeats Truman.... for real"


33. (R) Tom Dewey (1949-1957) • Robert Taft+ / Earl Warren
34. (I) Dwight D Eisenhower** (1957-1961) • Richard Nixon
35. (D) John F Kennedy (1961-1969) • Lyndon Johnson
36. (D) George Smathers (1969-1973) • Daniel Moynihan

36. (R) Richard Nixon* (1973-1975) • Ronald Reagan
37. (R) Ronald Reagan (1975-1981) • Bob Dole

38. (D) Robert Francis Kennedy (1981-1989) • Gary Hart
39. (D) Mike Dukakis (1989-1997) • Joe Biden

40. (R) George W Bush (1997-2005) • John McCain
41. (R) Mitt Romney (2005-2013) • Bill Frist

42. (D) John F Kennedy Jr. (2013-2021) • Barack Obama
43. (D) Barack Obama (2021-2025) • Wendy Davis
44. (R) Marco Rubio (2025-2033) • Nikki Haley
*Resigned
**Choose not to run for 2nd term (Health)
+ Died in office (natural causes)
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2018, 07:45:59 AM »
« Edited: March 25, 2018, 04:27:39 AM by MillennialModerate »

1952:

Eisenhower/Nixon • 442
Stevenson/Miller • 89
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1956

Nixon/Lodge • 391
Stevenson/Keafvour • 140
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1960:

Kennedy/Johnson • 341
Nixon/Lodge • 188
Unpledged • 8
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1964:

Kennedy/Smathers • 538
Goldwater/Miller • 0
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1968:

Smathers/Muskie (Democrat) • 271
Romney/Case (Republican) • 222
Wallace/LeMay (American Independent) • 45
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1972:

Reagan/Rockefeller • 429
Smathers/Muskie • 129
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1976:

Reagan/Rockefeller • 281
Jerry Brown/Jimmy Carter • 257
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1980:

Robert F Kennedy / Lloyd Bentsen • 401
Bob Dole / George H.W Bush • 137
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1984:

Robert Kennedy / Lloyd Bentsen • 383
Howard Baker / Jack Kemp • 155
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1988:

John Glenn / Gary Hart• 315
Howard Baker / Pete Du Pont• 223
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1992:

Mitt Romney / John McCain • 325
John Glenn / Ted Kennedy • 213
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1996:

Mitt Romney / John McCain • 401
Al Gore / Bill Clinton • 137
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2000:

Joe Biden / Bob Graham • 366
Rudy Giuliani / Bob Riley• 172
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2004:

George W. Bush / George Voinovich • 277
Joe Biden / Bob Graham • 261
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2008:

John F Kennedy Jr / Joe Manchin • 371
George W Bush / George Voinovich • 167
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2012:

John F Kennedy Jr / Joe Manchin • 469
Mike Pawlenty / Sarah Palin • 69
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2016:

Joe Manchin / Eric Garcetti • 324
Donald Trump • Chris Christie 214
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2020:

Rob Portman / Bill Haslam • 303
Joe Manchin • Eric Garcetti 235
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2024:

Tim Ryan / Tulsi Gabbard • 394
Rob Portman / Bill Haslam • 144
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2028:

Elizabeth Halseth (R-NV) • Marco Rubio (R-FL)
 (Republican)
• 270

Tim Ryan (D-OH) • Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)
 (Democrat)
• 251
Levi Sanders (GL-NH) / Mike Ellison (GL-MN)
 (Green Liberal)
• 17
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2032:

Elizabeth Halseth (R-NV) • Marco Rubio (R-FL) • 372
Seth Moulton (D-MA) • Eric Swalwell (D-CA) • 166
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2036:

Connor Lamb (D-PA) / Jack Schlossberg (D-CT)
(Democrat)
• 355

Aaron Schock (R-IL) / Sarah Laszloffy (R-MT)
(Republican)
• 120
Ben Shapiro (T-CA) / Marilinda Garcia (T-NH)
(Tea Party)
• 45
Jeramey Anderson (GL-MS) / Ryan Fecteau (GL-ME)
(Green Liberal)
• 18
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2018, 07:55:59 AM »

33. Ike Eisenhower (R-PA) • 1953-19571
      VP: Richard Nixon (R-CA)
      1952: Defeats Stevenson/Sparkman

34. Richard Nixon (R-CA) • 1957-1961
      VP: Henry Cabot Lodge (R-MA)
      1952: Defeats Stevenson/Keafevor

35. John F Kennedy (D-MA) • 1961-1969
      VP: [‘61-‘65]Lyndon Johnson (D-TX)
      VP: [‘65-‘69]George Smathers (D-FL)
      1960: Defeats Nixon/Lodge
      1964: Defeats Goldwater/Miller

36. George Smathers (D-FL) • 1969-1973
      VP: Ed Muskie (D-ME)
      1968: Defeats Romney/Case
      
37. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) • 1973-1981
      VP: Nelson Rockefeller [73-79]
 VP: Gerald Ford [79-81]
      1972: Defeats Smathers/Muskie
      1976: Defeats Brown/Carter

38. Robert F. Kennedy (D-MD) • 1981-1989
      VP: Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)
      1980: Defeats Dole/Bush
      1984: Defeats Baker/Kemp

39. John Glenn (D-OH) • 1989-1993
      VP: [‘89-‘91]Gary Hart (D-CO)
      VP: [‘91-‘93]Ted Kennedy(D-MA)
      1988: Defeats Baker/DuPont
      
40. Mitt Romney (R-MA) • 1993-2001
      VP: John McCain
      1992: Defeats Glenn/T.Kennedy
      1996: Defeats Gore/Clinton

41. Joe Biden (D-DE) • 2001-2005
      VP: Bob Graham (D-FL)
      2000: Defeats Giuliani/Bob Riley

42. George W. Bush (R-TX) • 2005-2009
      VP:  George Voinovich (R-OH)
      2004: Defeats Biden/Graham

43. John F Kennedy Jr (D-NY) • 2009-2017
      VP: Joe Manchin (D-WV)
      2008: Defeats Bush/Voinovich
      2012: Defeats Pawlenty/Palin


44. Joe Manchin (D-WV) • 2017-2021
      VP: Eric Garcetti (D-CA) ]
     2016: Defeats Trump/Christie

45. Rob Portman (R-OH) • 2021-2025
      VP: Bill Haslam (R-TN)
      2020: Defeats Manchin/Garcetti

46. Tim Ryan (D-OH) • 2025-2029
      VP: Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)
      2024: Defeats Portman/Haslam

47. Elizabeth Hasleth (R-NV) • 2029-2037
      VP: Marco Rubio (R-FL)
      2028: Defeats Ryan/Gabbard
                     Levi Sanders/Keith Ellison

      2032: Defeats Seth Moulton/Eric Swalwell

48. Connor Lamb (D-PA) • 2037-TBD
      VP: Jack Schlossberg (D-CT)
      2036: Defeats Aaron Schock/Sarah Laszloffy
                           Ben Shapiro/Marilinda Garcia
                           Jeramey Anderson/Ryan Fecteau


NOTES:
1956: Eisenhower decides not to run for second term
1964: JFK puts Smathers on ticket = ongoing investigation into LBJ
1979: Rockefeller dies of Heart attack, Gerald Ford becomes VP
1991: Gary Hart resigns after he’s outted for a 2 year affair with a then 19yr old

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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2019, 06:42:58 AM »
« Edited: January 27, 2019, 06:53:32 AM by MillennialModerate »

PresidentsYearsVice PresidentsYears
33. Harry Truman (D- Missouri)1945–1949Alben Barkley (D- Kentucky)1945–1949
34. Thomas Dewey (R- New York)1949-1953 [1]John Bricker (R- Ohio)1949-1953
35. Dwight Eisenhower (I- Kansas)1953–1957 [2]Earl Warren (I- Calif)1953–1957
36. Richard Nixon (R-Calif.)1957–1961Henry Cabot Lodge (R-Mass)1957–1961
37. John F. Kennedy (D- MA)1961–1969. [3] Lyndon Johnson (D-Texas)1961–1965
George Smathers (D-Florida)1965-1969
38. George Smathers (D-Florida)1969-1973Ed Muskie (D-Maine)1969-1973
39. Ronald Reagan (D-California)1973-1981Nelson Rockefeller (D-NY)1973-1979 [4]  
Howard Baker (R-Tenn)1979-1981
40. Robert F Kennedy (D-Maryland)1981-1989Lloyd Bentsen (D-Texas)1981-1989
41. John Glenn (D-Ohio)1989-1993Fritz Hollings (D-So.Carolina)1989-1993
42. John McCain (R-Fla.)1993-2001Mitt Romney (R-Mass)1993-2001
43. Joe Biden (D-Del)2001-2005Maria Shriver (D-Calif.)2001-2005
44. George W. Bush (R-Texas)2005-2009John Kasich (R-Ohio)2005-2009
45. John F. Kennedy Jr. (D-New York)2009-2017Barack Obama (D-Illinois)2009–2017
46. Barack Obama (D-Illinois)2017-2025Joe Manchin (D-W. Virginia)2017-2025
47. Elizabeth Halseth (R-Nevada)2025-2033Marco Rubio (R- Florida)2025-2033
48. Donald Trump Jr (T- NY)2033-2035 [5]Ben Shapiro (T- Calif.)2033-2035
49. Ben Shapiro (T- Calif)2035-2037Tomi Lahren (T- So. Dakota)2035-2037
50. Alexandria Ocasio-C (LG - NY)2037-2041Levi Sanders (LG- NH)2037-2041
51. Jack Schlossberg (D- Conn)2041-2049Connor Lamb (D- Penn)2041-2049

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[1]The closest election in history takes a week to decide as Delewares 3 electoral votes hang in the balance. Dewey wins the state by 87 votes, giving him the states 3 EV and the EC win 266-265. Nationally Truman wins the popular vote by 22k votes.

[2] President Eisenhower decides not to run for second term after health scare

[3] After bringing the world back from the brink during the Cuban Crisis and after surviving an assassination attempt JFK becomes the first and so far only President to win a 50 state sweep over Senator Barry Goldwater. He won 71% of the popular vote


[4] Vice President Rockefeller dies suddenly in his West Wing office.

[5] Donald Trump Jr becomes the first non Democrat or Republican to win the presidency since Ike. Two years in he resigns due to bribery and corruption allegations.
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2020, 05:42:54 PM »

Making America "Great" Again... In 1968:

37. Ronald Reagan / John Tower (Republican): 1969-1973
Def. 1968: Hubert Humphrey / Edmund Muskie (Democratic), George Wallace / Curtis LeMay (American Independent)
38. Ted Kennedy / Fred Harris (Democratic): 1973-1977*
Def. 1972: Ronald Reagan / John Tower (Republican)
39. Nelson Rockefeller / Bob Dole (Republican): 1977-1978**
Def. 1976: Fred Harris / Henry "Scoop" Jackson (Democratic), Eugene McCarthy / George McGovern (Independent)
40. Bob Dole / Vacant (Republican): 1978
40. Bob Dole / Kit Bond (Republican): 1978-1981
41. Edmund Muskie / John Glenn (Democratic): 1981-1989
Def. 1980: Bob Dole / Kit Bond (Republican)
Def. 1984: Kit Bond / Pete du Pont (Republican)
42. Howard Baker / Jim Thompson (Republican): 1989-1993
Def. 1988: John Glenn / Bill Clinton (Democratic)
43. Mario Cuomo / Dick Gephardt (Democratic): 1993-2001
Def. 1992: Howard Baker / Jim Thompson (Republican)
Def. 1996: Newt Gingrich / Tommy Thompson (Republican),, Lowell Weicker / John Chafee (Independent)

44. Dick Gephardt / Bob Graham (Democratic): 2001-2009
Def. 2000: Jeb Bush / Richard Lugar (Republican)
Def. 2004: John McCain / George Allen (Republican)

45. Mitt Romney / John Thune (Republican): 2009-2017
Def. 2008: John Kerry / Blanche Lincoln (Democratic)
Def. 2012: Brian Schweitzer / Martin O'Malley (Democratic)

46. John F. Kennedy Jr. / Julian Castro (Democratic): 2017-2021
Def. 2016: John Thune / Ted Cruz (Democratic)
47. John Kasich / Tim Scott (Republican): 2021-Incumbent
Def. 2020: John F. Kennedy Jr. / Julian Castro (Democratic)

*=President Kennedy declined to seek another term in 1976 citing family matters
**= President Rockefeller died of a heart attack July 5th, 1978 at the White House

Where the Presidents since 1969 rank out of 46 Presidents in C-Span's 2021 Survey:
37. Ronald Reagan: 29/46
38. Ted Kennedy: 25/46
39. Nelson Rockefeller: 26/46
40. Bob Dole: 33/46
41. Edmund Muskie: 11/46
42. Howard Baker: 16/46
43. Mario Cuomo: 14/46
44. Dick Gephardt: 22/46
45. Mitt Romney: 18/46
46. John F. Kennedy Jr.Sad 27/46

Two weeks ago Massachusetts showed itself to be woefully inept at choosing correct canidates so it’s not impossible but i fail to see even the most far fetched scenario that would see JFK JR lose anything other than the bar exam
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2020, 05:10:25 AM »

Making America "Great" Again... In 1968:

37. Ronald Reagan / John Tower (Republican): 1969-1973
Def. 1968: Hubert Humphrey / Edmund Muskie (Democratic), George Wallace / Curtis LeMay (American Independent)
38. Ted Kennedy / Fred Harris (Democratic): 1973-1977*
Def. 1972: Ronald Reagan / John Tower (Republican)
39. Nelson Rockefeller / Bob Dole (Republican): 1977-1978**
Def. 1976: Fred Harris / Henry "Scoop" Jackson (Democratic), Eugene McCarthy / George McGovern (Independent)
40. Bob Dole / Vacant (Republican): 1978
40. Bob Dole / Kit Bond (Republican): 1978-1981
41. Edmund Muskie / John Glenn (Democratic): 1981-1989
Def. 1980: Bob Dole / Kit Bond (Republican)
Def. 1984: Kit Bond / Pete du Pont (Republican)
42. Howard Baker / Jim Thompson (Republican): 1989-1993
Def. 1988: John Glenn / Bill Clinton (Democratic)
43. Mario Cuomo / Dick Gephardt (Democratic): 1993-2001
Def. 1992: Howard Baker / Jim Thompson (Republican)
Def. 1996: Newt Gingrich / Tommy Thompson (Republican),, Lowell Weicker / John Chafee (Independent)

44. Dick Gephardt / Bob Graham (Democratic): 2001-2009
Def. 2000: Jeb Bush / Richard Lugar (Republican)
Def. 2004: John McCain / George Allen (Republican)

45. Mitt Romney / John Thune (Republican): 2009-2017
Def. 2008: John Kerry / Blanche Lincoln (Democratic)
Def. 2012: Brian Schweitzer / Martin O'Malley (Democratic)

46. John F. Kennedy Jr. / Julian Castro (Democratic): 2017-2021
Def. 2016: John Thune / Ted Cruz (Democratic)
47. John Kasich / Tim Scott (Republican): 2021-Incumbent
Def. 2020: John F. Kennedy Jr. / Julian Castro (Democratic)

*=President Kennedy declined to seek another term in 1976 citing family matters
**= President Rockefeller died of a heart attack July 5th, 1978 at the White House

Where the Presidents since 1969 rank out of 46 Presidents in C-Span's 2021 Survey:
37. Ronald Reagan: 29/46
38. Ted Kennedy: 25/46
39. Nelson Rockefeller: 26/46
40. Bob Dole: 33/46
41. Edmund Muskie: 11/46
42. Howard Baker: 16/46
43. Mario Cuomo: 14/46
44. Dick Gephardt: 22/46
45. Mitt Romney: 18/46
46. John F. Kennedy Jr.Sad 27/46

Two weeks ago Massachusetts showed itself to be woefully inept at choosing correct canidates so it’s not impossible but i fail to see even the most far fetched scenario that would see JFK JR lose anything other than the bar exam

He can lose if the events of his term are half as bad as our timeline.


Pretty much everything bad over the last 4 years can be traced back to the Oompa Loompa in chief.

He has stocked the divisions, the racial riots, a horrendous response to the pandemic .. on and on
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