Get ready for riots. Macron trying to increase pension age in France

[Oryxslayer]

Well the title came true and there are riots tonight, and there also are now multiple no-confidence motions. But can any of them get LR to support new elections, and therefore reverse the policy?

[Oryxslayer]

Slighty off topic, but I wonder whether Macron would actually lose if the 2022 election was re-run now?

One thing to note is that Macron made this unpopular policy a campaign promise . I actually respect Macron a lot for doing that. The warnings were clearly there, anyone who cared so much about pensions could have voted for icky Le Pen.

I was about to make the same comment.  It seems to me if this pension reform was a deal breaker then the French electorate could have just voted for Le Pen who was clearly against this move.  They did not so it seems to me Macron has a mandate to move forward.

Just because they viewed Le Pen is worse than pension reform, doesn't mean they voted for pension reform, nevermind Macron having a "mandate" for pension reform.

That's the beauty of two-round runoff systems,  isn't it wonderful?


France honestly could be a place where adoption of the Alaska runoff system dramatically improves political representation.  Cause right now the system is collapsing towards a South American situation,  which will only fuel chaos long term.

[Oryxslayer]

The 2022 presidential election was an almost perfect 3-way split between the left, the neoliberal right (Macron+Pécresse) and the nationalist far-right (Le Pen+Zemmour+NDA). This meant that in theory, with the right vote distribution, any of these three factions could have qualified for the runoff. However, Mélenchon is at somewhat of a disadvantage, since many people on the left hate his guts and would probably not vote for him against Macron. So unfortunately Macron probably wins no matter what. There will not be a clear alternative to Macron unless either the left gets its sh*t together and nominates a candidate who isn't extremely divisive, or the dam against FN finally breaks and Le Pen actually wins.

One thing to note is that Le Pens trying to get left wing votes alienates the Zemmour wing who is much more right wing economically . Le pen exceeded her factions vote share in the 2nd round in most areas except very strong Zemmour areas.

That's because Zemmour was only marginally taking from the previous election's Le Pen voters - and mainly in the south. That's what he thought would occur. Instead, his coalition pulled more from LR because he resembled those voters even though he said a bunch of racist stuff. Which is one reason why Ciotti was so brazen during his leadership bid and still won. It seems weird but a large chunk of those Zemmour voters in I-d-F already went Macron in round 2.