German Elections & Politics

[Oryxslayer]

11/55 Direct Mandates:


7 CDU
3 SPD
1 Green

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22/55 Direct Mandates

13 CDU
7 SPD
2 Green

[Oryxslayer]

ARD now with an expanded parliament as well

Traffic light is actually Viable in such a parliament. It joins the obvious Grand Coalition and Jamaica as potential options.

38/55 Direct mandates:

26 CDU
9 SPD
3 Green

[Oryxslayer]

44/55 Direct Mandates:

31 Union
10 SPD
3 Green

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51/55 Direct Mandates:

37 Union
11 SPD
3 Green

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53/55 Direct Mandates:

37 Union
11 SPD
5 Green

Greens gained two from Frankfurt, and one more city seat is still out.

[Oryxslayer]

55/55 Direct Mandates:

39 CDU
11 SPD
5 Green

Greens win Frankfurt overall.

[Oryxslayer]

137 members means that a 69 seat government has a bare majority. This means a continuation of Black-Green is Viable, Black-Red is an option, and Traffic Light is also on the table if Greens want to have a government they lead...

[Oryxslayer]

Honest question here, but why do people think the Grand Coalition is dead? Even if someone less Europhile then Merkel takes the reigns of leadership, its in the SPD's best interest to avoid new elections and the subsequent electoral wipe-out. Jamaica won't bail the Union out of a hole, especially if its the greens who stand to gain from new elections.

[Oryxslayer]

Honest question here, but why do people think the Grand Coalition is dead? Even if someone less Europhile then Merkel takes the reigns of leadership, its in the SPD's best interest to avoid new elections and the subsequent electoral wipe-out. Jamaica won't bail the Union out of a hole, especially if its the greens who stand to gain from new elections.

Because all three parties have crashed in the polls and in the last two state elections, especially the SPD, which is likely to never recover again; The encore soi-disant "grand coailition" would even get a majority if the federal election were held today, and the AfD has finally entered all 16 state parliaments.
All three parties have been in fierce dispute with each other since the beginning of the tenure half a year ago.

Yes but you haven't refuted my argument: the CDU/CSU prefers a 2.5 party government over a a 3.5 party or or one where they are out of power, the two option available in new elections are called. The SPD wants access to power and a greater share of the parliamentary seats, both things that go away with new elections. Basically what I am saying is that while the Grand Coalition is not working to the best of its ability, its the best of all possible options on the table.

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I hope that Friedrich Merz is going to win. The CDU needs to move to the right to absorb AfD voters and leave more room at the center for the SPD to rebound and show a sharper difference between the two parties. AKK is just a continuation of Merkel while Spahn is an empty suit and showboat.

Well the Union's current trend is a combination of Dominate the Center, Kill the SPD. Electorally the union is fine if they remain 10% higher then any other party - they have to be in government. I guess what I'm saying is I'm for AKK.