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« on: December 31, 2018, 12:09:10 PM »

She should have ran against Clinton in 2016. It’s too late.
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2018, 01:24:23 PM »

Elizabeth Warren is a bad candidate because she is:

*Goofy (she has a dopey/clumsy personality)
*Not a good speaker (she has frail, brittle voice)
*Not a good campaigner
*Bogged down the whole Native American DNA test nonsense
*She will be 71 years old in 2020 (Isn't the Democratic Party, the party of youth/younger people?)

I don't hate Elizabeth Warren and I think that she's perfectly fine as Massachusetts' senior senator. However, she should not run for President.

Just about all of these points apply to Joe Biden and yet he's seen as a front runner?
And his record is awful and toxic to progressives and women. I wish he would do the world a favor and says he’s not running.
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2018, 02:47:15 PM »

I don't follow, she endorsed Clinton in 2016, did she not? If she insulted them or something, I don't think it's a well known fact at all. Anyway, I'm sad to see Warren in this position, if only she wasn't bogged in a bad couple of recent years... and I want someone who can defeat Trump.
I think because she jumped the gun and said unequivocally that Hillary rigged the primary when that Donna Brazile book came out. She and Brazile both ended up walking their comments back.
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2018, 03:49:19 PM »

So does Warren have to answer why she was a Republican well into her 40’s like Hillary had to explain being a low information Goldwater Girl following her father in high school?
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2018, 10:28:20 PM »

What would become of her Senate seat?
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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2019, 05:16:52 PM »

Wasn't Warren a registered Republican till mid 90s? Did she support Reagan the person who literally waged a war on poor people & encouraged racial polarization.

Her platform is good but unattainable. Public Option for Drugs is not just unimplementable but would violate multiple international norms of trade. Warren wasn't even supporting Universal Healthcare a year or so back but now is trying to suddenly come up with half a dozen policies to gather the Sanders' space. She will have to explain everything including her support for the military industrial complex & 700B $ in defence budget & so on.
Is this what you’ll be doing to anyone who can threaten Bernie’s coalition? I thought she was a Bernie ally now she’s a demon to y’all.
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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2019, 05:35:38 PM »

Wasn't Warren a registered Republican till mid 90s? Did she support Reagan the person who literally waged a war on poor people & encouraged racial polarization.

Her platform is good but unattainable. Public Option for Drugs is not just unimplementable but would violate multiple international norms of trade. Warren wasn't even supporting Universal Healthcare a year or so back but now is trying to suddenly come up with half a dozen policies to gather the Sanders' space. She will have to explain everything including her support for the military industrial complex & 700B $ in defence budget & so on.

But instead, you had people being pressed on HRC being a Goldwater girl.
I was wondering why this post went unanswered:

So does Warren have to answer why she was a Republican well into her 40’s like Hillary had to explain being a low information Goldwater Girl following her father in high school?

Warren was their girl when they didn’t have a credible candidate to take on Hillary in 2016.
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2019, 09:12:43 PM »

Of all the potential nominees, she'd probably be the best president.  Unfortunately, I don't think she's the best candidate.  It's a shame that the ability to govern and the ability to politic so often diverge. 
This. I feel like Warren has the best economic policy for someone like me, but with her brings a load of anti-Native and racist rhetoric that will serve as a distraction from Trump's gross incompetence and corruption. It sucks.
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2019, 11:39:01 PM »

Of all the potential nominees, she'd probably be the best president.  Unfortunately, I don't think she's the best candidate.  It's a shame that the ability to govern and the ability to politic so often diverge. 
This. I feel like Warren has the best economic policy for someone like me, but with her brings a load of anti-Native and racist rhetoric that will serve as a distraction from Trump's gross incompetence and corruption. It sucks.

Trump's going to run a racist, xenophobic, and extremely ignorant campaign regardless of the nominee. So, I wouldn't let that factor into the equation. I highly doubt Warren will actually lose voters over this issue; anyone who's willing to vote for Trump over Warren's Native American ancestry controversy would almost certainly vote for him regardless of the Democratic candidate.
This is true, but besides the racism, he will use this to foster an image that Warren is corrupt, untrustworthy, and has no credibility. These type of things thrive among low information voters and I don't mean Trump acolytes, I mean passive voters who will vote Dem if they bother but can be easily swayed into cynicism towards a candidate.
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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2019, 06:42:24 PM »

They literally have to release them so the title is wrong.

I'm sure Warren's numbers sucked. Bernie ruined any chance she had at gaining momentum. I wonder if she'll even make it to Iowa at this point.
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2019, 06:20:16 PM »

I may be lending Shadows too much credibility with this, but he may be bringing up that Warren would face possibly even more difficulty than Sanders in passing her agenda.
Why would Republicans (or Democrats quite frankly) work with Sanders any better than Warren? LOL.
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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2019, 12:30:35 AM »

The media focused on Clinton’s emails, false stories about the Clinton Foundation, and perpetuating the narrative that she was dying because she caught pneumonia.

Meanwhile, whether good or bad focusing on Trump’s comments on Mexicans and Muslims was literally elevating his policy positions and reinforcing them over and over again.
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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2019, 12:50:41 AM »

The media focused on Clinton’s emails, false stories about the Clinton Foundation, and perpetuating the narrative that she was dying because she caught pneumonia.

Meanwhile, whether good or bad focusing on Trump’s comments on Mexicans and Muslims was literally elevating his policy positions and reinforcing them over and over again.

So the media is responisble for everything that went wrong with Hillary's campaign?
You have to be in opposition to everything I say? I just made a statement about how the media neglected Hillary’s policy positions and elevated Trump’s. Nothing more nothing less.
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2019, 05:55:43 PM »

Warren has the best policy of any candidate and a track record of expertise and getting things done. It's a shame that elections can never be about substance.
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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2019, 04:19:56 PM »

The economic anxiety narrative was pushed because white led cable news rooms didn’t want to call out their fellow white people’s racism.

However, I do not find Warren’s message pessimistic. It’s just that the folks who would benefit the most from these policies are enamored by other candidates.
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« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2019, 12:14:03 PM »

Ok Senator Warren! You’ve reignited my interest. 👀
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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2019, 03:58:34 PM »

Came in here to say that Warren might get my vote. I watched her on She the People and other than Harris she seemed the most comfortable, relaxed, and knowledgeable on issues that affect women especially black women which I feel is really important. I’m going to donate and I’m also attending a house party for her in Atlanta next week.
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« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2019, 02:21:52 PM »

Can a two-woman ticket win?
How do you guys think an Elizabeth Warren/Catherine Cortez Masto ticket would do? I chose them because I know that Warren and Cortez Masto are super close, and I think they have great chemistry. A Massachusetts/Nevada ticket is my kind of ticket, too.


Yes. She should pick her or Julian Castro.

At this point it is indisputable that Warren has the most transformative yet realistic agenda for millennials and black America. I’m supporting her as my top pick at this point. I think she has an unusual and narrow path but it’s there.
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« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2019, 03:47:07 PM »

Can a two-woman ticket win?
How do you guys think an Elizabeth Warren/Catherine Cortez Masto ticket would do? I chose them because I know that Warren and Cortez Masto are super close, and I think they have great chemistry. A Massachusetts/Nevada ticket is my kind of ticket, too.


Yes. She should pick her or Julian Castro.

At this point it is indisputable that Warren has the most transformative yet realistic agenda for millennials and black America. I’m supporting her as my top pick at this point. I think she has an unusual and narrow path but it’s there.

Time to change your username to Warren Warrior, maybe? I think Warren would be winning if Democratic voters were all policy wonks that carefully critiqued every candidate based on their proposed policies and plans for enacting those policies. However, I think that describes maybe 10-15% of voters at most.
LOL. I will probably just go back to my regular username when I get home. I tried so hard to hold out for Beto. He says ALL the right things but I just don’t see the political will or fight to do it if he actually gets in. My vote will obviously change if it needs to strategically but Warren is the best person in this field to me.
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« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2019, 11:01:55 PM »
« Edited: April 25, 2019, 11:05:45 PM by Beto Bro »


Warren needs to continue to call him out. She will win in every contrast and Biden directly addressing her only elevates her profile. She has nothing to lose and she has been going directly for Biden's presumed base of southern Blacks.

How come you've soured on Beto? Do you just not see him as the left-wing strongman (for lack of a better term) needed?
I initially chose him because I thought he could expand the map and was progressive enough to appease young folks but not so much that he'd scare off older people. I just find his roll-out to be lackluster. He is very energetic on the trail and what not but I think once he gets in office he will waffle and start talking about bipartisanship.

Warren has a spine of steel and has gone after some pretty damn influential people. I also highly admire her commitment to closing racial wealth gap and racial healthcare gap. She talks about these issues with nuance and in ways that it doesn't alienate white voters.

She also came right on out with impeachment and had folks like Beto following her lead within 48 hours. She is setting the tone for this primary. I think at this point her best bet is to go directly for Biden's neck and elevate herself as the contrast candidate to him.
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« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2019, 12:48:03 AM »

Can a two-woman ticket win?
How do you guys think an Elizabeth Warren/Catherine Cortez Masto ticket would do? I chose them because I know that Warren and Cortez Masto are super close, and I think they have great chemistry. A Massachusetts/Nevada ticket is my kind of ticket, too.


Yes. She should pick her or Julian Castro.

At this point it is indisputable that Warren has the most transformative yet realistic agenda for millennials and black America. I’m supporting her as my top pick at this point. I think she has an unusual and narrow path but it’s there.

For sure. I think especially with Julián Castro as her VP, it would be an excellent ticket. My biggest concern would be the debates, as she would win the way Hillary did, but, well, it would be a repeat of those debates.
I wish she wouldn't even debate him. He is a liar and criminal. The debate wouldn't even be centered on substantive policy. He just wants to troll her with 100 million people watching. It would be him spouting lazy talking points and calling her Pocahontas. But if she declined to debate the concern trolling lamestream media would say she's scared to face him. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2019, 10:41:04 AM »

I don't think Trump's schoolyard insults will play well against Warren. While she's talking about American families and wealth inequality in a credible way, a way that HRC couldn't deliver as credible, if all Trump does is call her names, he will look like a fool while she dismantles him with facts and policy.
 I'd like to see her on stage as Trump call her plans unaffordable, while he has to defend a $2 trillion tax cut he gave to corporations and the wealthiest Americans.
 Would love to see that.
Thanks for putting that spin on it.

I absolutely repudiate the notion that Warren will be “unelectable” in the sense Hillary was. Hillary and Warren are both vehemently hated by the right. Hillary’s problem is the far left hated her and young people of color were skeptical of her. Neither will be true for Warren.
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« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2019, 03:00:05 PM »



I’m a firm believer that a strong field team wins elections. This philosophy is part of the reason I became a Stacey Abrams fanatic. Warren is going to shock people across this country.
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« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2019, 04:04:10 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2019, 10:36:13 AM »



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