"The Marvels" on pace to be the MCU's first massive bomb

[John Dule]

I wonder how much of the budget went to RT critics in order to keep that score above 60%.

[John Dule]

Rotten Tomatoes scores are much more likely to be manipulated by the studios than by haters, but both do happen.

And even if people are bombing the movie's score with negative reviews... so what? Nobody is claiming that they're bots. They're all individual people with their own personal opinions on the film. And yes, some people reviewing it may not have seen it, but (A) that's probably true for all movies on RT, and (B) that's far less troubling than Disney paying off critics and bribing them with early previews to write positive reviews, which absolutely happens.

[John Dule]

What did he mean by this?

[John Dule]

Well, that’s it boys. We killed feminism.

[John Dule]

4:  A lot of the writing for these movies is just stupid.  Like even putting aside the above issues they are just plain bad movies a lot of the time and would have been bad even with fantastic acting, well-developed characters and stellar production.  Ant Man: Quantumania, for instance, brought back an old dead antagonist who had his face stretched out on a killing machine (this looks absolutely dreadful btw) and in the climax of the movie, he's about to kill Ant-Man's daughter when she tells him "hey, don't be a dick."  That's all it takes to change his mind.  Then a few minutes later, Kang is about to kill Ant-Man, and he flies in shouting "I am not a dick!" and suicide-bombs himself into Kang.  And that's supposed to be the epic climax of the film.  How you gonna compare this to Goodfellas?  Can you blame Scorsese for being salty that people are choosing to waste 126 minutes of their life watching this crap instead of a quality movie?  They only get away with it because they get compared to other MCU movies instead of other real movies.

I laughed so hard reading this. I almost want to see this now.

[John Dule]

If there's one thing the manosphere dudebros do seem to be right about it's that Marvel is trying to replace every single character with a young girl who acquires all the powers and knowledge with zero effort and just seems to immediately be an expert on how to utilize those powers.  And that Marvel usually drives this point home by making her smarter and better than the original superhero, often emphasized with a scene between the two where she condescendingly proves her superiority over him.  I find these scenes not just annoying but also predictable.  But I'm more annoyed that these characters often seem as little more than advertisements for TV shows.

That's the same BS these cousin-humping, mouth-breathing, racist troglodytes were saying about Rey in the Star Wars sequels, being a Mary Sue and what.
And that's why I'll ask somebody to give me a specific example of an MCU project where that happened because I can't recall.

racism is when u dont like moovie

[John Dule]

If there's one thing the manosphere dudebros do seem to be right about it's that Marvel is trying to replace every single character with a young girl who acquires all the powers and knowledge with zero effort and just seems to immediately be an expert on how to utilize those powers.  And that Marvel usually drives this point home by making her smarter and better than the original superhero, often emphasized with a scene between the two where she condescendingly proves her superiority over him.  I find these scenes not just annoying but also predictable.  But I'm more annoyed that these characters often seem as little more than advertisements for TV shows.

That's the same BS these cousin-humping, mouth-breathing, racist troglodytes were saying about Rey in the Star Wars sequels, being a Mary Sue and what.
And that's why I'll ask somebody to give me a specific example of an MCU project where that happened because I can't recall.

racism is when u dont like moovie

There are a significant chunk of people in this world who simply hate the fact that this film is led by three women, one of them black and another a Pakistani-Canadian.

... which is utterly irrelevant to MacArthur's substantive and specific criticism of the movie.

[John Dule]

If there's one thing the manosphere dudebros do seem to be right about it's that Marvel is trying to replace every single character with a young girl who acquires all the powers and knowledge with zero effort and just seems to immediately be an expert on how to utilize those powers.  And that Marvel usually drives this point home by making her smarter and better than the original superhero, often emphasized with a scene between the two where she condescendingly proves her superiority over him.  I find these scenes not just annoying but also predictable.  But I'm more annoyed that these characters often seem as little more than advertisements for TV shows.

That's the same BS these cousin-humping, mouth-breathing, racist troglodytes were saying about Rey in the Star Wars sequels, being a Mary Sue and what.
And that's why I'll ask somebody to give me a specific example of an MCU project where that happened because I can't recall.

racism is when u dont like moovie

Nah, their main selling point is misogynism. That's why their Unholy Trinity of Wokeism is Ghostbusters 2016, the live-action Mulan, and Captain Marvel.

Huh? Mulan didn't race-swap or gender-swap the main character. People just hated it for the same reason they hate all those live-action Disney adaptations: they suck.

[John Dule]

And like I said, they're clearly pulling back and recalibrating. People pronouncing this 'The death of Marvel' are speaking way too son, I think.

Funnily all these incel losers who celebrate the death of Marvel had nothing to say about the second season of Loki. Isn't that weird?

Scorsese’s been awful quiet since that fire dropped 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[John Dule]

And like I said, they're clearly pulling back and recalibrating. People pronouncing this 'The death of Marvel' are speaking way too son, I think.

Funnily all these incel losers who celebrate the death of Marvel had nothing to say about the second season of Loki. Isn't that weird?

Scorsese’s been awful quiet since that fire dropped 🔥🔥🔥🔥

Let's also take a moment to step back and admire how he literally called us "incels" for celebrating the death of capes--t that at one time at least was only really admired by "incels" or their equivalent.

I'm getting married next year. 😂😂😂😂

These NPC clowns are so predictable it's not even funny anymore. "Don't like my capes--t? You must be [insert politically charged, terminally online insult here]. It couldn't possibly be that you just have actual taste and are sick to death of played out, overdone, boring, lazy, pandering, soulless, cookie cuter, formulaic, directionless, garbage, corporate movies and want to see something new and original!"

Again, I want to emphasize this point: I LIKED the Barbie movie! Putting me on the same level as Ben Shapiro or something, as some "incel" who just hates all things "woke" or something, is demonstrably, laughably false. But he literally can't handle the truth apparently, LMFAO.

Imagine traveling back to the 80s and telling people that in the future, nerds will try to say that people who DON'T like comic books are the ones who don't have sex.

[John Dule]

And like I said, they're clearly pulling back and recalibrating. People pronouncing this 'The death of Marvel' are speaking way too son, I think.

Funnily all these incel losers who celebrate the death of Marvel had nothing to say about the second season of Loki. Isn't that weird?

Scorsese’s been awful quiet since that fire dropped 🔥🔥🔥🔥

Let's also take a moment to step back and admire how he literally called us "incels" for celebrating the death of capes--t that at one time at least was only really admired by "incels" or their equivalent.

I'm getting married next year. 😂😂😂😂

These NPC clowns are so predictable it's not even funny anymore. "Don't like my capes--t? You must be [insert politically charged, terminally online insult here]. It couldn't possibly be that you just have actual taste and are sick to death of played out, overdone, boring, lazy, pandering, soulless, cookie cuter, formulaic, directionless, garbage, corporate movies and want to see something new and original!"

Again, I want to emphasize this point: I LIKED the Barbie movie! Putting me on the same level as Ben Shapiro or something, as some "incel" who just hates all things "woke" or something, is demonstrably, laughably false. But he literally can't handle the truth apparently, LMFAO.

Imagine traveling back to the 80s and telling people that in the future, nerds will try to say that people who DON'T like comic books are the ones who don't have sex.

I just don't get angry when people like something I don't or vice versa. Life's too short.

In that case, please direct this comment towards Lyndon. He is the one tossing around accusations of racism and other ad-hominems because we don't like the manufactured corporate trash he defends. This thread was a place of joy and celebration before he showed up.

[John Dule]

GoTfan, just block him. It will make your experience on this site infinitely better. I honestly find him even more insufferable when I agree with him.