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Question: Did progressives handle the Lia Thomas incident well, and were they in the right?
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Yes, progressives were right, and they handled it well
 
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Yes, progressives were right, but they didn’t handle it well
 
#3
No, progressives were wrong, but they handled it well
 
#4
No, progressives were wrong, and they didn’t handle it well
 
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John Dule
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« on: June 12, 2023, 01:57:26 PM »

To answer your question, whether or not Thomas may have had a biological advantage is irrelevant for a number of reasons, least of all that gifted athletes will naturally possess a biological advantage over most other people.

There's a cisgender female South African runner who produces more testosterone naturally than has been deemed typical of other cisgender women. Should she be forced to compete on the men's team?

Not only do I think that progressives were in the wrong on this issue, I also think that they handled it so poorly that it caused a lot of damage to the movement and made the nation shift to the right on trans issues. It was a real “the emperor has no clothes” moment, and it may have honestly caused irreversible damage to the trans rights movement.

This isn't specific to transgender issues, but I really dislike the whole reactionary "look what you made me do" framing of their arguments.

Your insistence on playing dumb when it comes to this issue is becoming genuinely pathetic.
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John Dule
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Posts: 18,491
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2023, 02:55:30 PM »

To answer your question, whether or not Thomas may have had a biological advantage is irrelevant for a number of reasons, least of all that gifted athletes will naturally possess a biological advantage over most other people.

There's a cisgender female South African runner who produces more testosterone naturally than has been deemed typical of other cisgender women. Should she be forced to compete on the men's team?

Not only do I think that progressives were in the wrong on this issue, I also think that they handled it so poorly that it caused a lot of damage to the movement and made the nation shift to the right on trans issues. It was a real “the emperor has no clothes” moment, and it may have honestly caused irreversible damage to the trans rights movement.

This isn't specific to transgender issues, but I really dislike the whole reactionary "look what you made me do" framing of their arguments.

Your insistence on playing dumb when it comes to this issue is becoming genuinely pathetic.

I don't know why you continue to plug your fingers in your ears on this issue.

In previous interactions, you've all but said that you think there is essentially a conspiracy among the AAP, AMA et al. to lie to the public about the impacts of gender-affirming care, so why should anyone take what you have to say on this subject seriously?

I never said any such thing. You're aware of this, which is why you hedged your comment with "all but." Pathetic and sad.
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