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John Dule
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« on: August 12, 2022, 02:27:49 PM »

Scary that the Democrats don't seem cognizant of the precedent this will set. If they can go after Trump, they can go after anyone who steals classified documents about nuclear warheads.
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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2022, 12:19:59 PM »



But why? (Hard-hitting and insightful political analysis, I know)

Why have those documents in the first place?

My guess is that his cronies were packing up all their other incriminating documents regarding their many acts of malfeasance, and this just happened to get swept into the mix. He probably didn’t even know he had it.
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John Dule
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2022, 12:28:16 PM »



But why? (Hard-hitting and insightful political analysis, I know)

Why have those documents in the first place?

My guess is that his cronies were packing up all their other incriminating documents regarding their many acts of malfeasance, and this just happened to get swept into the mix. He probably didn’t even know he had it.
Why keep them instead of destroying them though?

Are we sure he was aware of them? Maybe he just had them tucked away in a huge filing cabinet labeled “crimes” and never looked through it.
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John Dule
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2022, 12:40:47 PM »


We're sure that he was aware of them in light of the NYT's report just now:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/13/us/politics/trump-classified-material-fbi.html

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In the spring, the Justice Department issued a subpoena to Mr. Trump seeking further documents believed to be in his possession. He was repeatedly urged by advisers to return what remained, despite what they described as his desire to continue to hold onto some documents.

Incidentally, such being the case helps neuter DT's point from a few days ago about how the warrant was apparently unnecessary overkill on account of the "cooperation."

Perhaps he took them by accident and, realizing what he’d done, tried to pretend they didn’t exist. It’s not that I think Trump isn’t stupid enough to purposely make off with nuclear documents (he absolutely is), but this isn’t something I imagine him doing without some clear incentive or financial gain. What is to be gained from having these documents?
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2022, 04:29:11 PM »

If they can do it to Trump, they can do it to you.  If they can do it to you, they can do it to me. 

Do you plan on stealing classified nuclear documents anytime soon, Fuzzy?
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John Dule
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2022, 05:35:20 PM »

One thing is for sure: We are going to reign in Merrick "Craptastic" Garland if Republicans take over the House.

Well, if it is you personally who is on the case Garland won't have much to be afraid about, actually.

Not to mention that he's going to have a difficult time "reigning" anyone in when he can barely speak English.
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2023, 01:08:37 PM »

I'd say "hot take", but is this even one? I wouldn't be surprised to see another indictment bump in GOP primary polls. No matter what he's charged for, a majority of the GOP base will always just view this as a partisan witch hunt. Even when some R-politicians come out and say this is serious stuff, they're just dismissed as traitors and RINOs.

Actual facts coming out as to Trump's active obstruction of justice that are shocking to the conscience of all but the most incorrigible of sociopaths out there might prove difficult for even some MAGA types to digest without vomiting. We shall see.


The Trump devotees are gone. Any attempt to deprogram them should be approached with the same strategy as trying to deprogram cultists. Ordinary voters who are considering supporting Trump are a different story but any of the "MAGA types" are just gone.


I think we need to make new threads for each new development.

The Trumpers aren’t even looking at this thread and aren’t going to pay attention unless it’s shoved in front of their faces.

We at least need to rename the thread now.
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2023, 06:24:14 PM »

How can you have any meaningful argument with blue avatars who are putting their fingers in their ears and go "LALALALALA!!!"?
These people need cult deprogramming, not respect.

What an original observation.
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John Dule
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2023, 06:46:19 PM »

How can you have any meaningful argument with blue avatars who are putting their fingers in their ears and go "LALALALALA!!!"?
These people need cult deprogramming, not respect.

What an original observation.



Honest offer: Would you like me to give you a crash course in meme-making sometime? The fact that I'm at risk of seeing your boomer humor at any random time of the day is a human rights violation.
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