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Former President tack50
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« on: July 04, 2020, 03:34:32 PM »

Well, this bill is fairly straight forward, and seeks to fix the stagnation and boringness of current federal elections through the avenue of game reform as opposed to more conventional avenues.

In terms of the bill itself, the bill:

1) Bans the SoFE from listing any party affiliations on the ballots
2) Bans the Registrar General from keeping track of party affiliations
3) Forces Peebs to register everyone as independent before implementing point 2 (not like it matters, she really would just delete the "party" column I assume)

If this was real life I would also add that non-partisan elections foster dialogue between people from different ideologies and ""bipartisanship"" (despite parties not existing) and what not, but that does not really apply in Atlasia, at least not as of late.

The way this would fix the current problem of non-competitiveness however is remarkably similar to that of real life. In theory, a bill like this would force candidates to stand as their own men and women, with their own ideas to fix the issues, and for voters to decide based exclusively on that instead of blindly voting for the candidates they are told by the party.

Since it is the 4th of July, I will even quote the founder of the real life US, George Washington Tongue

Quote from:  George Washington's farewell adress
I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the state, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. [...]

The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. [...]

... the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.

It serves always to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public Administration. It agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which find a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.

... in Governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged. From their natural tendency, it is certain there will always be enough of that spirit for every salutary purpose. And, there being constant danger of excess, the effort ought to be, by force of public opinion, to mitigate and assuage it. A fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume.

Anyways you may now tear this idea to shreds before inevitably tabling it 5-1 or 6-0 Tongue
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Former President tack50
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2020, 05:25:05 AM »

Well, time to answer the counterarguments:

Re: Pericles, yes, making zombies less informed is the whole point of the bill. To quote 1984: Ignorance is Strength Tongue That way, instead of voting blindly for party candidate, they will vote for whoever they actually desire. I will not lie, this probably makes friendship voting stronger, it is just a consequence of less information meaning that name recognition matters more. The question would be whether it is worth it I suppose.

Re DC; I do not think the left and the right and the center would necesarily be categories. In a non partisan election everyone stands as themselves (or at least that is how they are supposed to be in theory). Since Atlasia is presidential and not parliamentary there wouldn't even need to be a "Government vs opposition" dynamic so officeholders would have even more freedom.

Re Wulfric and Yankee: Yes this would be my biggest worry. Obviously there is no power in Atlasia to declassify off-Atlas organizations (or even to stop PMs and what not). An scenario like that would obviously defeat the whole point of the bill. The hope would be that:
a) Without party affiliations, party machines would be weaker. So you'd see less pasted ballots and less partisan voting. Most zombies do indeed vote as told without thinking about it though there is still a minority that do at least put some thought into it (these are generally the ones that use the official ballots instead of copy-paste ballots in my experience)
b) Eventually, new zombies who join Atlasia with no loyalties would be swing voters and vote normally. So as time marches on, these people with no loyalty just vote freely. Of course you can argue that this either would disincentivize recruitment, or that parties would just recruit to Discord first, then to Atlasia or some variation on that.

The big question on this bill would be whether you think something like this would have a positive, negative or neutral effect. The negative of course is clear, it reinforces friendship voting over ideological voting. The positive is that it gives more flexibility. And the neutrality argument is that things would just keep on with business as usual behind the shadows Tongue

Anyways, this is a bill I introduced on the heat of the moment and to open a "serious" debate on it more than to actually pass it. So yeah, a "virtue signaling" bill I suppose lol

Seconding the motion for a final vote.
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2020, 11:15:34 AM »

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