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Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

« on: July 19, 2008, 05:48:50 PM »

Why would the right kill one of their get out the vote causes by banning/seriously restricting abortion?
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Straha
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2008, 03:57:27 PM »

Eliminating Roe V. Wade would cause a social liberal backlash to the point where I'd be considered far right(as in how we'd see someone like Tancredo/Peroutka)..
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Straha
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2008, 10:36:12 PM »

Let's play the hand out

Scenario 1: McCain wins

Let's presume McCain wins and gets in his 2 justices plus a compliant dem congress. We're talking repeal of Roe V. Wade, continued strong FCC, etc. Removing Roe V. Wade removes the conservative base's single rallying point and energizes the left. We're talking a move to the left on social matters not seen since the 60s/progressive era with the trend against neoliberal/washington consensus economics still going on but not being spurred by this. Basically, things change to the point where in 2012 I have a bit of a hard time deciding who to vote for and in 2016 I vote down the line republican because the democrats were too socially left for me.

Scenario 2: Obama Wins

Obama wins and manages to move things slightly more in a moderate direction but his incompetence drives things off the rails leading to a backlash. The end result is a deadlock on social issues on the federal level, de-emphasizing morals/nanny state controls in favor of focusing on security concerns. We're talking 20s red scare level purges against muslims, mormons(the whole xenophobia plus percieved polygamy bit), elements of the far left(the blame america crowd, anarchists), greens, minority ethnic nationalists and some of the more strange lifestyle movements(the transgender movement is crushed to the point where it doesn't recover for a generation, the more outre elements of gay culture are repressed, hippies are repressed, goths/emos get repressed). Identity politics is savagely repressed.
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Straha
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2008, 02:36:52 PM »

So anybody who doesn't "Get with the fu cking program" get's deported or jailed? Tongue Oooohh...will there be eugenics? Look at my Olympics thread... if you are right, I'm going to save up on my money and get all of the advantages I can get lest I get jailed, deported, go unemployed or lose every thing. Tongue Gee...I need to go to bed.
Not quite. Think more the eisenhower administration minus jim crow and with significantly less sexism/homophobia/prudery with elements of Reagan's morning in america(more poppy/edgy pop culture) and the 20s red scare.

Regarding eugenics it gets complex. Incidently, the US already bans genetic discrimination and negative eugenics is seen as quite unPC these days. However, positive eugenics (as in paying people woh are smart/healthy/rich to have kids/giving them tax breaks) is coming in both scenarios.
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