U.S Rep. Keith Ellison (DFL-MN) seeks to allow ex-felons to vote. (user search)
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Undisguised Sockpuppet
Straha
Junior Chimp
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« on: November 16, 2007, 11:14:50 PM »

The solution is to stop making victimless crimes illegal not giving felons the right to vote.
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Undisguised Sockpuppet
Straha
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2007, 12:38:05 PM »

I find it amusing that the rights of ex-felons are to be determined by pre-felons in Congress.
They're looking out for their future interests.
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Undisguised Sockpuppet
Straha
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2007, 12:38:45 PM »

Agree with the guy on being allowed to vote once out of prison. Don't agree on allowing serving prisoners to vote.

Name a victimless crime, by the way.

Drug use, promiscuity, Underage drinking, broadcasting porn on the media, publicy nudity.
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Undisguised Sockpuppet
Straha
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2007, 12:47:20 PM »

1
a It's your body not the state's.
b Yeah it costs the state alot of money because of BS enforcement
c Hey it's your lfie not theirs.

2 Just provide free condoms/lube and intern everyone with AIDS and require all peopel wanting visas/immigrating in to gert mandatory AIDS tests.

3 No. The problem is wasting police resources on BS 'crimes'.

4 Government censorship of the media fails hardcore.

5 The presence of homosexuals and minorities is disturbing to some people. Should we now start gassing gays and darkies to appease bigots?
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Undisguised Sockpuppet
Straha
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2007, 12:58:04 PM »

1a There's no god.
1b The US doesn't have a singlepayer system so your concerns don't apply. Also the relatives can pay for the funeral.
1c Alot of the problems caused with drugs are because they're illegal.

2 Funny you were talking about STDs and chastising me ofr my stances and yet you oppose an idea to get rid of them

3 I consider the social costs of wasting policing on alcohol/drug 'crimes' and thus ignoring violent crimes to be far too high

4 The only regulations for TV content should be no kiddie porn, no bestiality and no necrophilia. That's all.

5 It's not the same thing but it's a step down that path. Outside of basic things like "don't rape kids/farm animals/corpses" and "don't kill/mug/assault people" public opinion should play no role in what your'e allowed to do in public.
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Undisguised Sockpuppet
Straha
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2007, 01:43:33 PM »

1a. Yes, there is a God. Who created the universe otherwise?

1b. A mother should not have to pay for her own son's funeral. A mother should not have to bury her own son, full stop.

1c. They're also addictive, make you do dangerous things, lead to crime.

2. Not everybody gets HIV/AIDS via sex. Needle sharing, dodgy blood transfusions, for example, being the child of a woman with said condition.

I oppose that idea because its just plain wrong. It violates peoples' rights and makes being ill a crime. Would you say that the internship of Japanese-Americans was right? There are other ways.

3. Drugs fuel violent crimes.

4. Would you want your 6-year-old child watching a full sex scene in Spongebob Squarepants?

5. Suppose a man is driving along the road and sees a naked woman. He crashes his car and kills four other people. Not harmful?

Wow, my first argument with a libertarian.

1a The problem is your presumption of a who
1b why do you expect me to care?
1c Fro the last time it's not your life

2 So what? How is that any better?

3 No. Making them illegal fuels violent crime.

4 I wouldn't care.

5 Lol strawman option
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Undisguised Sockpuppet
Straha
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2007, 02:01:36 PM »


lulz
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Undisguised Sockpuppet
Straha
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,787
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 6.52, S: 2.00

« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2007, 11:05:47 AM »

How many people have been mugged for drug money?

Wouldn't this decline if drugs were no longer associated with criminal activity? A drug addict may feel less inclined to obey the law on other issues now because they already break the law buying and selling drugs.
Correct. We don't have a large problem of people stealing for booze/smokes money so legal drugs would more or less be the same as that. Tobacco is as addictive as heroin but yet we don't have massive amounts of theft involving it.
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