Conderate states never rejoin US

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The Confederacy likely evolves into a nasty slave empire taking over lands in latin america. The long night of slavery would still reign beneath the mason-dixon line as slaves work in cotton plantations and steel mills even today..

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

I'm working on a timeline where the south wins the ACW due to the border states all opting to secede too and no fort sumter(gives the south more time to prepare). The US eventualyl retakes some of the border states but in 2005 the confederacy is still around. Its a militaristic apartheid slave state superpower by now. The US is a technocratic nation and the world economic/space superpower.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

The Confederacy likely evolves into a nasty slave empire taking over lands in latin america. The long night of slavery would still reign beneath the mason-dixon line as slaves work in cotton plantations and steel mills even today..

Of course that never would have actually happened if the south won.

1 Slavery ended because of social changes and not economic conditions. These factors wouldn't apply in a newly indepdendnt confederacy. An indepdencnet confederacy would expand into cuba, central america and mexico spreading its system.

2 What is more likely than your idea of a confederacy simply giving in to the rest of the world would be the confederacy forming alliances with reactionary powers like apartheid south africa, brazil(only started abolition after the CSA was defeated), Fascist italy, the radical islamist regimes in the middle east, pinochet's chile, white australia policy australia and various latin american juntas. If history went like OTL we'd see a cold war between the US, Soviets and a reactionary alliance lead by the CSA(the CSA would prevent the total defeat of the axis powers so we could end up with a rump nazi germany with pre-WWII boundaries and rump militarist japan consisting of the japanese isles also being in this alliance).

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

an independent confederacy would likely try to reenslave the free blacks at first but eventually comes up with a confederate version of apartheid to put free blacks and darker skinned hispanics from the inevitable conquests in...

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

Just to add fuel for States, I know, for a fact, that Louisiana permitted free blacks top own slaves.

just because freed blacks could own slaves doesn't mean we'd see any better race relations. In an independent confederacy the few upper or middle class freed blacks would end up being absorbed into the white population.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

Slavery was on its way out in the upper south for a variety of reasons.

That statement is wrong. In the 1850's before the civil war, slavery's strengh was just getting stronger and stronger in the upper south.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

virginia didn't come close to banning slavery in the 1850's IIRC. It DID come within a few votes of compenstated emancipation in the 1830's... but that was before sectional tensions ratched it up.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

Not likely. I see the CSA staying together even if jsut at first to protect slavery and southern culture.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

Right. West virginia seceded from virginia because it felt underrepresented.