MS Special Election/Mike Espy (D) internal: Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (R) down by 2

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

They probably forgot to include the McDaniels percentage lol. Then it would make perfect sense.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Just another reminder that folks here were seriously arguing that Espy should drop out because he's black.

I mean he shouldn't, but let's not kid ourselves either, if Doug Jones was black, Roy Moore would have won.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Just another reminder that folks here were seriously arguing that Espy should drop out because he's black.

I mean he shouldn't, but let's not kid ourselves either, if Doug Jones was black, Roy Moore would have won.

I'm assuming you're referring to your endorsement?

Haha very funny. I strongly support Mike Espy and hope to see him win, he is by far the most qualified candidate, but I just don't think he will pull it off.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Just another reminder that folks here were seriously arguing that Espy should drop out because he's black.

I mean he shouldn't, but let's not kid ourselves either, if Doug Jones was black, Roy Moore would have won.

I mean, that just blatantly forgets how Jones won in the first place. Jones only won 30% of the white vote, which is rather average for Democrats. What was the difference was the fact that Jones won the Black Vote by historic margins, as much as Obama did. And they turned out. If Jones were black, its possible that more Black Dems would have turned out, and he likely still would have won.

30% of Whites nationally may be average to poor for democrats, but in Alabama, those numbers are just stellar. I could not see a black Doug Jones win 30% of the white vote in Alabama, and while they may raise black turnout to 32% or so, I feel like the racism and dog whistles would counter propel even more people on Moore's side to turnout out to keep black Jones out. I could see Espy winning in a Moore like scenario, and would even give him Espy the advantage, because Mississippi is substantially blacker than Alabama which I believe would more than make up the difference for getting less of the white vote and counter propelling bigots to the polls for The GOP.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Garbage.

This is a change election, and Mike Espy can win over Hyde-Smith

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