If Non Binary Genders are Real and Just as Valid as Man and Woman...

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Categorize and sort them into prisons and jails by birth sex.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Hopefully I don't get censored for saying that I think that Chelsea Manning deserves Federal capital punishment. I phrased it in a more pc manner this time. Anyways, the easier solution is to do it by sex. For me, sex and gender are the same thing for most all intents and purposes, but I do acknowledge that the vast majority see them as separate. But I still think that people should go to the jail/prison based on their birth sex.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Hopefully I don't get censored for saying that I think that Chelsea Manning deserves Federal capital punishment. I phrased it in a more pc manner this time. Anyways, the easier solution is to do it by sex. For me, sex and gender are the same thing for most all intents and purposes, but I do acknowledge that the vast majority see them as separate. But I still think that people should go to the jail/prison based on their birth sex.

I think you should go jail based on your terrible opinions.

Very patriotic and tolerant of you.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

I love it when maroon avatars call for jailing people for having in their eyes, different and undesirable views. Does not bring up bad history or optics at all . Thank god their power is shrinking, and no, democratic socialists and Berners on the rise do not count, not even they are that left wing.

Back in the USSR, or even non-socialist Pakistan, and you probably would have had it your way. Luckily, my parents came over to America before they had me, and therefore you don't get your way. I get to live and be myself, this among many reasons, is why America is so great. God bless this nation and its values worth defending. I'd be so screwed without it.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Ah yes, Pakistan of course  being notorious for the way it represses people who are transphobic

Well do you think at the wise age of 16 I got my most of my opinions through research and experience, or my parents, no duh.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Would you call me an attack helicopter if that's what I wanted? I'm actually curious.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

I have learned to respect people by either referring  to them by their name such as Caitlyn Jenner, because yes, that is their real name, regardless of what I think their gender/sex is. I am also fine with calling people and possessive traits by them or they or their, but there is also a line for me that I won't cross. I would not used one of those zir, zim, hees, heers, etc. stuff, nor call someone a pronoun that I don't agree with. Instead, I have learned a compromise where I can call people by neutral third person sounding pronouns, or by their name. It's tolerable for me, and at the same time is not offensive either.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

I have learned to respect people by either referring  to them by their name such as Caitlyn Jenner, because yes, that is their real name, regardless of what I think their gender/sex is. I am also fine with calling people and possessive traits by them or they or their, but there is also a line for me that I won't cross. I would not used one of those zir, zim, hees, heers, etc. stuff, nor call someone a pronoun that I don't agree with. Instead, I have learned a compromise where I can call people by neutral third person sounding pronouns, or by their name. It's tolerable for me, and at the same time is not offensive either.

If a trans person goes by she, she might be upset by "they" (although some people are fine with both).

Fair enough, which is also why I stated that I am willing to just call an individual by their name as well.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

I have learned to respect people by either referring  to them by their name such as Caitlyn Jenner, because yes, that is their real name, regardless of what I think their gender/sex is. I am also fine with calling people and possessive traits by them or they or their, but there is also a line for me that I won't cross. I would not used one of those zir, zim, hees, heers, etc. stuff, nor call someone a pronoun that I don't agree with. Instead, I have learned a compromise where I can call people by neutral third person sounding pronouns, or by their name. It's tolerable for me, and at the same time is not offensive either.

If a trans person goes by she, she might be upset by "they" (although some people are fine with both).

Fair enough, which is also why I stated that I am willing to just call an individual by their name as well.

Why not their preferred pronouns?

Because I am not willing to go that far, I already compromised enough.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

There are already accounts of trans "women" demanding access to lesbian bodies and calling anyone refusing to sleep with/date them "transphobes. Look up Riley Dennis.

Ignoring the scare quotes, this attitude is indeed bad IMO, but it also isn't what we were talking about.

I mean, we ensure that ethnic minorities have their dignity by preventing cultural appropriation. Why can't we protect women and their spaces?

We can. Trans women are women.

Well...

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Soon transracial stuff is going to be defined as legit by our society, its only a matter of time.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Soon transracial stuff is going to be defined as legit by our society, its only a matter of time.

Sure, why not? "Race" is pseudoscientific nonsense.

What a time to be alive...

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

People ought to be sorted on their actual gender, not the gender they think they are. 

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Atlas Logic: If a man says he's a cat, and feels like a cat, and wants to be a cat...he's a cat. To say otherwise and to deny that fact is just plain bigotry.