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Lord Admirale
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« on: October 25, 2017, 07:50:47 AM »

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/24/opinion/medicare-for-all-democrats.html

Definitely worth reading, he makes some very valid points on how poorly written the Independent Senator’s bill is.
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2017, 08:18:42 AM »
« Edited: October 25, 2017, 08:21:16 AM by STEVE BULLOCK FOR PRESIDENT »

Rattner believes M4All is a disaster as it does not serve to benefit the financial industry.
He is wealthy financier and investment banker. Connect the dots.

As a side note, it is hilarious that he believes championing healthcare for all will somehow leave the Democratic Party in a worse shape than it is presently in.
It’s not like this guy worked for President Obama or anything. What does he know?

“But muh millyuhnaihs and billyuhnaihs”
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2017, 08:32:28 AM »
« Edited: October 25, 2017, 08:37:04 AM by STEVE BULLOCK FOR PRESIDENT »

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No thanks, Rattner. Take your discredited, inhumane, and corporate policies and jump off a skyscraper.
Sounds like someone doesn’t like their Bernout bubble getting popped Wink

Anyways, it’s ironic you call Rattner inhumane, meanwhile Bernie’s bill will likely cause “treatment rationing.” How humane is that? 
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2017, 08:53:45 AM »
« Edited: October 25, 2017, 08:59:00 AM by STEVE BULLOCK FOR PRESIDENT »

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Ah, yes, the standard right-wing talking point. I bet every other person in the developed world experiences severe rationing of care; my British ex-girlfriend absolutely abhorred the NHS and so envied our system. /s

How about you defend the humanity of rationing of care that's performed in the United States on the basis of one's ability to pay? You know, the kind that results in tens of millions of Americans every year lacking basic healthcare coverage, that has to limit what operations and procedures they can have due to insurance restrictions based on the determinations of the insurance provider, the folks who skip going to the doctor because of absurd out-of-pocket costs, the folks who risk losing everything if they get cancer or another serious medical condition. America's healthcare system is top notch if you're in a good financial situation; for the tens of millions of Americans who aren't, like my deceased father who had a heart condition but never had health insurance and was told by the hospital he needed to see a family physician that he couldn't afford until he died in his car at work from sudden cardiac arrest just before Christmas last year, well, it's not so great.
Ah yes, because I don’t support the first universal healthcare bill that took 12 minutes to write, it immediately means that I support the current system.

Sorry about your dad, by the way. It must be hard to lose a family member so young. I have quite a lot of friends who are struggling to get healthcare, and I would share their stories, but I wouldn’t like to use them as political props.....

That’s just low, deranged, and twisted on so many levels. You oughta be ashamed for using him as a prop.
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2017, 09:01:49 AM »

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Ah, yes, the standard right-wing talking point. I bet every other person in the developed world experiences severe rationing of care; my British ex-girlfriend absolutely abhorred the NHS and so envied our system. /s

How about you defend the humanity of rationing of care that's performed in the United States on the basis of one's ability to pay? You know, the kind that results in tens of millions of Americans every year lacking basic healthcare coverage, that has to limit what operations and procedures they can have due to insurance restrictions based on the determinations of the insurance provider, the folks who skip going to the doctor because of absurd out-of-pocket costs, the folks who risk losing everything if they get cancer or another serious medical condition. America's healthcare system is top notch if you're in a good financial situation; for the tens of millions of Americans who aren't, like my deceased father who had a heart condition but never had health insurance and was told by the hospital he needed to see a family physician that he couldn't afford until he died in his car at work from sudden cardiac arrest just before Christmas last year, well, it's not so great.
Ah yes, because I don’t support the first universal healthcare bill that took 12 minutes to write, it immediately means that I support the current system.

Sorry about your dad, btw. I have quite a lot of friends who are struggling to get healthcare, and I would share their stories, but I wouldn’t like to use them as political props.....

What is your criticism of the Sanders Universal healthcare Medicare-for-all bill?

What is the alternative you are proposing?

How do you cover everyone & ensure it is affordable to everyone?

How do you fund your alternative proposal?
1. Poorly written, lots of flaws, and simply won’t pass even in a Democratic House and/or Senate.
2. Something similar to Germany’s multipayer system
3. Price regulations on drugs, equipment, along with utilizing a national gas tax and other taxes (that I haven’t decided on yet)
4. See above
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