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« on: April 19, 2017, 03:25:48 PM »
« edited: April 19, 2017, 03:27:26 PM by Technocratic Timmy »

I'm interested in reading it, but my emotions about that night are still pretty raw. There were definitely problems with the candidate and her campaign, but that in no way a justifies electing an outright authoritarian and demagogue to the White House.

Eventually, Trump voters will see this beyond strict party ID and ideology: he is and always has been wrong for our country, and better suited for a dictatorship.

Jeez. Calm down. He's not THAT bad.

He got caught on a hot mic bragging about raping women

Well, not raping. Just sexually assaulting a married woman. As she was walking towards him. I can't believe that's a distinction that must be made and I also can't believe how quickly Republicans have forgiven it. Partisanship is a pretty sad thing.

Incorrect.

He was bragging about how being famous allowed him to get laid. 11 years ago. When he told Billy Bush "They let me do it because I'm famous", sure...it was uncouth, but letting him do it implies "consent".

If Trump walked on water, you liberals would say he couldn't swim.

Right before he said that they let him do anything he said "I don't even wait" which implies that he was not asking for consent.
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2017, 03:31:57 PM »

I'm interested in reading it, but my emotions about that night are still pretty raw. There were definitely problems with the candidate and her campaign, but that in no way a justifies electing an outright authoritarian and demagogue to the White House.

Eventually, Trump voters will see this beyond strict party ID and ideology: he is and always has been wrong for our country, and better suited for a dictatorship.

Jeez. Calm down. He's not THAT bad.

He got caught on a hot mic bragging about raping women

Well, not raping. Just sexually assaulting a married woman. As she was walking towards him. I can't believe that's a distinction that must be made and I also can't believe how quickly Republicans have forgiven it. Partisanship is a pretty sad thing.

Incorrect.

He was bragging about how being famous allowed him to get laid. 11 years ago. When he told Billy Bush "They let me do it because I'm famous", sure...it was uncouth, but letting him do it implies "consent".

If Trump walked on water, you liberals would say he couldn't swim.

Before he said that they let him do anything he also said "I don't even wait" which implies that he was not asking for consent.

I think the generalization of Trump is ridiculous coming from liberals who always say "Don't generalize". He attacks Rosie O'Donnell. That doesn't mean he attacks "women". He attacks the Khan father. That doesn't mean he attacks "Gold star families".

If he yelled at one crazy liberal employee of a Wal-Mart, would that mean "Donald Trump yells at Wal-Mart employee(S)?" plural? No. He yelled at one.

"I moved on her. I tried, and I failed." If he was a "rapist" he wouldn't be saying how he "failed". You guys are ridiculous. This is why you lose elections.

This is why feminists always scream about all the rapes that go unpunished. Because under the actual law, they are not actual rapes.

I was just saying that the part about his statement being consensual isn't a given.

I don't know nothing about no Rosie O'Donnel or Walmart employees.
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2017, 11:44:16 PM »


Then there was Obama, who saw Clinton as the heir to his legacy and resented Warren “for what he saw as demagoguing against him on economic issues and for wreaking havoc when he nominated banker Antonio Weiss as an undersecretary at the Treasury Department.” Clinton ultimately went with the man who had been Obama’s runner-up VP pick in 2008, Sen. Tim Kaine of Virginia, even though “Kaine didn’t give her a state she couldn’t win on her own, add populist progressive flavor to the ticket, or excite anyone — including the candidate herself.”

http://ew.com/books/2017/04/24/shattered-hillary-clinton-campaign-book-revelations/

Well they got demagogued from the right with Trump on these same issues so...
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