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Technocracy Timmy
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« on: March 22, 2017, 07:42:18 PM »

I doubt it. Millennials don't look to be moderating or shifting their views anytime soon and they're gonna make up an even bigger share of the electorate in 2020 and an even bigger share than that in 2024.
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2017, 10:47:36 PM »

I doubt it. Millennials don't look to be moderating or shifting their views anytime soon and they're gonna make up an even bigger share of the electorate in 2020 and an even bigger share than that in 2024.
Virtually every Millennial could vote in 2016, the only ones that couldn't were the youngest 2-3 years of it. 2000-2001 and later is Generation Z, which is much more conservative than Millennials are. Gen Z kids are too young to remember Bush and virtually all were born after Clinton, so their actions and policies have absolutely zero resonation with them.
Yeah, but being able to vote isn't the same thing as being likely to vote. People are naturally more likely to vote as they get older, so more and more millennials will be showing up to the polls one way or another. Also, the more old people die, the larger the share of the electorate that millennials make..
Also the accusation generation Z is "more conservative" is not really well founded

But but that one poll! Everyone knows that 15-year-olds keep the exact same political views throughout their lives. Also YouTube comments!

Hopefully these kids change their views when they get to college and talk to a Muslim person that's not a charicature conjured up by their favorite YouTuber Paul Joseph Watson.

I still stand by my signature for now.
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2017, 11:13:12 PM »

I doubt it. Millennials don't look to be moderating or shifting their views anytime soon and they're gonna make up an even bigger share of the electorate in 2020 and an even bigger share than that in 2024.
Virtually every Millennial could vote in 2016, the only ones that couldn't were the youngest 2-3 years of it. 2000-2001 and later is Generation Z, which is much more conservative than Millennials are. Gen Z kids are too young to remember Bush and virtually all were born after Clinton, so their actions and policies have absolutely zero resonation with them.
Yeah, but being able to vote isn't the same thing as being likely to vote. People are naturally more likely to vote as they get older, so more and more millennials will be showing up to the polls one way or another. Also, the more old people die, the larger the share of the electorate that millennials make..
Also the accusation generation Z is "more conservative" is not really well founded

But but that one poll! Everyone knows that 15-year-olds keep the exact same political views throughout their lives. Also YouTube comments!

Hopefully these kids change their views when they get to college and talk to a Muslim person that's not a charicature conjured up by their favorite YouTuber Paul Joseph Watson.

I still stand by my signature for now.
I still put my stock on the results of the scholastic poll. It showed Hillary dominating with students. It's not damning evidence either way but a poll's a poll, and with such little hard evidence out there I think people need to stop the Gen Z panic.

True. The youth are always so apathetic to voting that even if only 30% of them are very left wing (or very right wing), those who are politically engaged early on will do a great deal to steer the direction of this Generation.

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they were the most conservative generation since those born before WWII, or the most liberal generation in human history. Either is plausible at this point.
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2017, 07:59:40 PM »

I can definitely see young voters wrenching right in the next 20 years, and the GOP could find themselves winning young voters by 2022.
K I have no idea how considering studies show millennials are very liberal

Generation Z is so conservative it'll make ya head spin. And by conservative I mean national socialist Tongue
I still don't buy that idea

Yeah I don't seriously think that a generation that's not even of voting age is conservative let alone a bunch of Nazis.

In fact given the current trends I think they'll be second only to millenials as the most Democratic living generation.

What current trends?  As you say they are not even voting age yet.

Well that's why I don't fully know whether they'll be conservative or not: because it's only trends in place right now that could change.

But right we know that the best indicator of ones lifelong party affiliation is to look at what Party was in the White House when one turned 18 and how they Party performed (538). Generation Z will likely be coming of age during an unpopular GOP administration from now til 2020. I think Pence or Trump will have the advantage when it comes to the 2020 election because they'll be sitting presidents and will have the Reagan coalition to fall back on. From then on I can't really say whether or not they'll be popular in their second term (if they even get one) so idk whether the rest of Gen Z will come of age during a popular GOP presidency from 2020-2024. This also doesn't include the rest of Generation Z that comes of age from 2024-2036.

We do know that they're the most racially diverse generation in American history so that's a big plus for the Democrats though.
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