The Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts

[memphis]

  My cousin, the mother of the three nephews and sister-in-law to my Pastor, has turned lesbian.  This saddens my Pastor and his wife, like you wouldn't believe.  They cry every night together crying out to God to bring her out of this destructive lifestyle and back to Himself.  I'm a little more accepting of it, but still not supportive of it.  I still pray that God would bring her out of it.

[memphis]

Keeping in mind, this is from a pro-religion poster

The thing is, normative male heterosexuality should be critiqued.

We're listening.    

There are people here who can do this much better than I can, but the basic takeaway is that it's more than anything else an instrument of control, and a lot of what straight men (and people who aren't straight men, in all fairness) think is a 'natural' or 'normal' aspect of their or others' sexuality is an outgrowth of that dynamic of control.

[memphis]

Memphis, you only post that here because Nathan questioned you. Period.

Whether or not this is true has zero bearing on whether it belongs here.

[memphis]

How did memphis' clothes comment turn into "women shouldn't dress like prostitutes if they don't wanna get raped."?

I would not blame a victim of rape. Ever. At the same time, we all live in an imperfect world and need to be mindful of that fact. I wouldn't leave my front door wide open lest somebody loot my modest possessions. It wouldn't be my fault somebody stole my stuff, but it would have been wiser to be more conscious of the risks out there in the world.

He explicitly stated that women are never at fault for being victimized in that way, but all the same would do well to practice caution in unpredictable situations. Comparing the scenario to simple theft cheapens the impact of rape, to say the least, but this is the internet and it's a brain-dead easy analogy to make off the cuff.

Beyond that, he seems to think the biological differences between men and women are too vast for true sexual integration to occur. Again, what is controversial about that viewpoint? Is this not a commonly held stance amongst people? I understand the goal is to deconstruct the concepts of sexual archetypes, but you're seriously calling anyone who thinks this way an irredeemably evil bigot misogynist sexist whateverist. Do you guys routinely crucify weird uncle Clem when he makes off-color comments at Christmas dinner?

Here's the deal with the mob. They're just as certain as can be that women are at all times and in all circumstances victims. It's a fundamental postulate to their position. With that established, they are constantly on the lookout for anybody who can play the role of evil woman hating whatever. Because you can't have a victim without a bad guy. So, whenever anybody suggests something that is in any way different to their point of view, they have their woman hating, rape supporting, burkha enforcing aggressor, and, thus, their world view is validated, and at the same time they get to feel morally superior.
And yes, the placement of this conversation is such so that I'm posting directly into the deluge. It doesn't make what I said any less true and you are ever so clever for pointing it out...

[memphis]

Yes, despite Gustaf's insistence otherwise I can get along with people who disagree with me. Torie is another great example of someone I get along fine with.

Seems funny that he, of all people, would make such a suggestion.

[memphis]

And I get along great with people who disagree with me